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all right everybody Shalom and welcome
to the isi fer show broadcasting live
from Judea to the world you're a part of
it wherever you are Shalom and welcome
to Mala fler Mala welcome back to the
program thank you it's good to be back
on the isi flyer Israel podcast to Raba
God bless you Mala yes and you and I
want to say that Today's Show is
actually dedicated that's right uh a
little bit late but better late than
never it's dedicated to the 15th y site
of Abraham Ben hakohen Whose y site was
a few weeks ago it's uh my good friend
Amy's grandfather Amy and Arthur uh out
in uh out in Arizona and he was a
patriarch of of the family he was an
officer in the US Navy he was a lawyer a
businessman and a proud Jew he was a BAL
SED ducka which means he gave Char
anonymously and supported supporting
many causes for many years he provided
for education for his family and many
who were not in his family that's very
nice including non non-jews Gentiles wow
uh the Nations he supported uh
many institutions Jewish institutions in
his life father to three daughters seven
grandchildren and now has six
great-grandchildren so
and thank you very much to the memory of
Abraham bohen and that's what the show
is dedicated to today amen um and
patriarch builds family right there are
right now uh four couples in Israel who
have been targets of sanctions by the
United States because of a uh
presidential order specifically
targeting uh these
families and uh because because they're
Biden created uh declared a National
Emergency he called it a National
Emergency I looked it up it the United
States had a National Emergency to
sanction these four people right and
then after that the UK the poodle uh the
poodles at UK followed that and then the
French just following you know I thought
the French people are poodles it could
be it could be that they're those
terriers or whatever they're called but
the the bottom line is that is that the
behavior is that of a poodle following
you know America sanctioning now Britain
sanctioning Now France is sanctioning
and and and France was big they're like
21 people cannot enter our land
incidentally I don't know I haven't
looked at the list of the 21 people but
I did look at the list of the four
people I promptly forgot the names of
those four people because they are like
so Anonymous right that like you've
never heard of them I never heard of
them I've been involved in activism in
Israel now for over 20 years I've never
heard the names not one time of these
people never seen them never seen an
action that they did usually when a
country sanctions and like freezes the
assets of a known dangerous person that
person is like involved in some they
they don't want them to be able to move
money around because when they move
money around like horrible things happen
in the world I never heard of these guys
in fact Israel to my shame got involved
in the uh in the uh freezing of these
bank accounts game and one of the guys
so one of I know two of the B Banks one
of them is called Bank Lumi it's one of
the banks here in Israel it's even
International a little bit and one of
them is banador you guys don't know
about banador but basically what it is
is that in Israel you can open up like a
little checking account at your post
office and you can use it to pay your
bills you can pay bills from there you
can receive money into there it's a it's
the simplest bank account you can think
of and this guy's like Bon hador his
post office bank account cuz that's the
only bank account he has is is frozen up
these guys my guess is that they've
never been on an airplane in their lives
they are not leaders of something I just
they do not have followers I just think
that people might not understand what
you're saying what you're saying I just
want to clarify it for people what
you're saying is that these these folks
are really not known criminals in any
way and they're not I've never heard of
them right and you've never heard of
that right uh and I heard of one he
happens to work for a related
organization right to to Kevon but but
the the the accusations just to make it
clear is that uh they are been violent
to
Palestinians that's the accusation now I
have incidentally if that's true by the
way then we have a whole court system
here right in Israel that can deal with
that that's right so let me make let me
tell you three wrong things with this
this executive order all right one it is
an abrogation of Israeli
sovereignty because a sovereign let's
say let's say America has a problem with
some of our citizens they say Okay
Israel can you please look into as as a
as Ally and a sovereign we're asking you
to do have your Sovereign uh sovereignty
Sovereign police Powers uh and and do
justice do justice right so that's so
it's an abreg of Israeli sovereignty two
it's an abreg of um
um uh of due process
because these people don't even have any
court cases open against them in the
country in which they live right it's
like and and in other countries there is
no court case you have taken summary
judgment on them what what is the what
is the proof where is the where is the
court what what is the what you're
decreeing that that that you're
punishing people now there's no there's
no due process it's like where's the due
process you know and punishing them how
yeah like that they can't buy milk right
they what is it that that you're getting
them to not do right you want you want
them to go to jail okay show the proof
but what is this business and number
three is is this an equal application of
the law like if these guys are if these
guys supposedly are uh are are are
violent threats to right local Arabs I
can give
you list of of of 2 200 people right now
we could give you a list of people who
should be by the United States violence
and they're and they're usually
jihadists and Arabs right people with
court cases so it's like it's like it's
like it's like it's so obvious what this
is It's a bullying it's a bullying
tactic uh sadly some Israeli Banks
complied usually I don't know what the
story with banador is with the with the
male one but usually it's um what
happened with Lumi is that Lumi has got
American bank accounts and according to
the executive order anybody doing
business with this is going to get uh
sanctioned which means that their
accounts are going to be uh Frozen but
but but but um now they're saying that
the municipalities that support these
people like the Dr south southern south
Hebron Hills are also going to be open
to sanctions because they also deal with
these people but I from the get-go the
minute I heard this I mean I said to
them you mean the state of Israel which
provides them with health care and other
things so now the state of Israel has to
be sanctioned in Toto because you pick
these four people was like may or may
not have done something that may or may
not be may or may not they are in until
proven guilty and the the state that
they reside in an ally has not issued
any court cases against them so this is
an absurdity it's another one of these
things like look this guy I think
America just wants to show that it can
do not say America do not this is this
is a a a crusade of a of a particular
Administration a particular set of
people and today earlier I interviewed a
Moroccan Arab pro-israel Moroccan Arab
and he's like Moroccan and he said to me
the the uh the great danger today and
what I know is the alliance between
progressives and the jihadists that's
that's the greatest danger and that's
what we're having here that's exactly
the moment that we're having here MAA we
have a great show lined up today but
before we kind of get into that uh I do
want to say that uh we have another
dedication today and that's for the
people that have fallen uh in the
last uh in the last few days uh
including a young lady named right om s
staff sergeant om Sara Benjo just 20
years old y um of the 91st division 869
combat intelligence collection
unit um there were Rockets fired from
kisah onto an Israeli army base right
today and from the reports like from the
little like Winks they're giving you you
can get a lot of information and what
they said is that Medics scanned
buildings that had been hit by rocket
fire
buildings
plural and the body of a woman was
discovered and this this was she um
staff sergeant Omar Sara Benjo so so
there was like a major attack right on
an Israeli army base in the north and
buildings were destroyed you know what
they call that they call that war right
and you know what the respon so that's
what itar benir said today so do you
know what the proper responses for these
kind of attacks war and and and and and
and and I
I feel sadness that she was killed right
but I feel okay to express rage oh yeah
War rage and that's the thing the thing
is like we have we have been too cooled
off we just we're just not good
expressing proper rage listen I got to
tell you our Fighters are fighting so
hard and I just heard some heartbreaking
stories today uh from my friend uh told
me Orin told me about uh some of his
buddies that were just killed down in
Gaza 3 uh he knew all the three guys
that were killed from one unit uh uh
yesterday uh and uh and you look up the
heavens and you're like God Almighty
what did he say he said that they were
the best guys and he said one guy who
was without a question a sadik a
righteous Torah Jew of a Rabin level yes
he said that a uh s a bomb blew up right
next to him everybody else the other two
guys that were killed were badly badly
cut up and broken and all kinds of stuff
like that he they didn't find a scratch
on him his he
he's dead his soul just like left his
soul left the body just did not get a
scratch on it although the bomb exploded
right next to him but his soul just left
and uh and he said this was the
righteous guy so there's a lot of
intensity out there we are definitely in
battle and I want I want to give kak
strength to everybody out there Jew and
Gentile to pray pray strong for the
strength of
Israel right now don't worry about
Shalom that's for a little bit later May
first God give the Jewish people
strength and later later on we'll get
the peace but right now we need to we
need to fight we need to push these
people back we need to use use this
opportunity and as I said in every show
these days which is like don't let these
people die in vain use this moment to
harness that horribleness and say right
we will we will protect our next
Generations it's definitely true that
you have a you have such an amount of
suffering let's just be honest so many
so many widows so many orphans so many
parents who will never get to hug their
child again and at least let us give
them the gift right of
saying my son died and and I'm my arms
ache for him but I know that because of
him we live in a safe Israel that's
right it cannot be that after all this
and all the children whose fathers will
not be at their at their weddings and at
their Bar Mitzvah and at their birthday
party parties and all the women who have
to start over and raise their kids and
try to find a you know a person to share
their life with again after all this
stuff it cannot be that after all this
what we're going to do is look at them
and go listen we had to make uh you know
painful concessions you know for for
Peace So that for the next three or four
years we can have Qui isness right that
is not enough we cannot say that to them
MAA uh we just unloaded on our beloved
friends and listen
some hardness now it's time to uh shift
gears a little bit and to give people
strength uh that comes through this war
as well there's a lot of light and a lot
of strength that's coming and I did an
interview earlier today with a man uh
whose mission is to bring beef jerky to
the soldiers is a righteous Mission it
is it is it's a great interview take a
listes the help of God you know we're
fighting a war here in Israel and
everybody wants a part of it you know
out in America and other places people
are sending in stuff uh here in Israel
people are volunteering on so many
different levels people are just looking
inside and asking themselves how can I
be part of it how can I take just a
small role to help the soldiers the
people that the the people that have
been injured families of the
abductees um in my community uh there's
a family that took it upon themselves to
make a
cafe uh that runs in town just free for
a few hours uh Every Day for wives of of
soldiers that are in the Army right now
people are doing beautiful things Kim
Rutenberg has taken upon himself to make
beef jerky to beef up our boys and girls
our soldiers and uh he reached out to me
and I'm like this is a cool story K
thank you very much for what you're
doing but explain to me what you're
doing what is it about beef jerky that's
so important what are you doing who are
you giving it out to and what's the
story amazing first of all you're the
the soundtrack of our Alia 10 years ago
it was you in benan
airport live production my family's on
there your little video clip from that
day and so so thank you and it's an
honor to to be part of our country and
you're the spokesperson in the voice for
that and K I see that you are with a
beautiful background I asked you before
the show if you're in Key West but you
told me that you are in beautiful be
shemish looks great there you're wearing
it's not it's not cold you look like
you're you're the sun's setting right
now it's gorgeous out there this is erel
this is our land there's so much uh myam
goes around andm we're able to to be
part of this wonderful world that we're
in and so to answer your question uh
from the beginning of the war like so
many people we were just looking for
something to do I'm a software engineer
my wife's in finance just looking for
something to do you know ding helping
the kadisha when we could and helped the
volunteer system at aasa hospital and
then my nephew was by us right here on
this street in be chemes he with his
wonderful wife he ran up North with so
many others that morning they ran
everywhere in the country and a week
later he was hungry and my son he has a
special diet when we go to uh wa for the
Summers he takes beef jerky with him
because it's a stable food it's
nutritious there's no additives It's
Just Pure Food and it's a meal in a bag
that you could take anywhere at any time
and have it with you so my wife says we
got to do beef jerky we couldn't find it
in the store I reached out to a few
vendors and within a day had around 150
packages it took them up north met with
the rap in the the northern border and
actually the the the Army uh Captain guy
who's in charge of uh procurement and
stuff for the Army right thank you so we
took them up there with some jackets
that he wanted and they said these
jackets aren't good but the beef jerky
perfect so we took the end up taking the
jackets to the Pika phone which was
unfortunately targeted today Northern
command thank you sir and you've become
too Israeli you're you're speaking
you're speaking
English don't don't mess with my Hebrew
no one understands a word of
it okay so you went up to the north toik
phone and underneath these jackets there
was a package of beef jerky about 30
packages I gave one to this guy Kobe
tatti the had of logistics up there he's
like the mama bear of the whole all the
units in the north he loved it he gave
some to try to senior commanders and
with by the time I got back to be chish
they went into the field and they got me
back and Kobe said we want thousands
this is the one food we don't have and
put every last minute every effort in I
I just want to say
that I like
salad and I like potatoes and chicken
but beef makes me feel stronger and
better and I'm just that kind of guy and
I think there's there's a lot of guys
like me and when you're out there you
are depleting your proteins a meat snack
that just sounds awesome especially if
it's like you know not full of
preservatives and stuff it's just good
stuff it's great I've had this argument
a few times with people as say value of
cost like what about chicken jerky what
about this what about that like what
what is a steak in a bag that shelf
stable in a tank in Gaza in middle of a
war worth totally and it's just and it
thank God it's thank God we've done so
much around 50,000 wait a minute wait a
minute wait a minute so 50,000 beef
jerky bags wait a minute you're
producing it I don't understand just
give me give me the give me the sourcing
it sourcing it from vendors making it
feasible doing whatever it takes um is
it made in Israel or is it made in
America it's mostly made in Israel
sometimes we get donations we got fish
jerky from from uh kosher catch
in in
Massachusetts but mostly it's gr locally
sourced there's actually a a facility in
Jerusalem that has uh and God gave
us oh so that's what I was gonna ask you
also so it's it's a top it's a it's
kosher a high standard it's it's mahadin
what we call uhuh and it's just been an
amazing experience seeing the Yem every
minute literally hand of God yeah hand
of God thank you and and literally like
the laab rebbi says that at this period
of time you know we're in the final
steps we know we're in the final days a
final opportunity to do good before it
just becomes too easy to do good and in
this process sometimes it's been too
easy and sometimes it's been really hard
and always seen that magic like even
today someone called me on Sunday a unit
in the South they wanted a 100 packages
of beef drinky that's a$ thousand dollar
right there every request is so big well
how are you funding all this
prayer and uh I gotta try that actually
I have tried that we know we know
so yeah it's just but are people but are
people supporting are people jumping on
board to be part of this thing so I
would say yes barem we've raised around
$400,000 andem thank God that's great I
was actually gonna it's actually right
before the war started my wife wanted us
to switch up our car for an electric car
and I didn't because I thinking how many
mitz was can I do an electric car it's
limited it's a certain number of
kilometers actually put about 50,000
kilometers on our car driving to
different bases in the last few months
amazing and it's just been an unreal
experience seeing the land meeting the
people well let's see let's actually see
a little video of you uh giving some of
that beef jerky out to soldiers let's
take a look I'm here with world renowned
Dr Bradley stra from Toronto and been an
honor to spend the afternoon with him
Distributing beef jerky it's our honor
to have this fist to bring meat basar
pure meat to give it to the soldiers
this is something important to
you thank you very much very
important thank
you all right so so right there there's
some protein snacks is going to give go
a long way and we're not just talking
about yummies see that's the difference
the beef jerky thing is not just a yummy
this is actually going to make them
stronger soldiers uh in in the immediate
like like short term right and gives him
a lot of strength I'm talking I just I
just got my release papers from two
months of reserve duty I know what it's
like to uh to to to have good food at
your disposal uh so that's that's
awesome um but wait I I want to show
another film here I want to show a film
of your volunteers getting together to
make it happen
okay our makers and our Messengers we
can't do one without the other
so so if you eat a lot of beef jerkey do
you become as tall as that that guy that
was standing there that that was the
tallest that's a dad actually that has
some kids that have he hasn't seen his
son in three months wow and that's
actually Susie fishbank you heard about
the projects I said you know what I'm
supposed to meet up with them they
package a 100 bags every week to send to
their boys they said let's meet at your
apartment and she got to meet them met
us and it's just it's so amazing to be
mkik and one of the that's me
strengthened right you're doing it and
one of the things that like this the bab
rabi says that end the times when you're
doing good you feel great if you're not
doing anything you feel miserable and
that's one symbol that we're in also you
could go all out we believe in aritus Ro
being 100% the most beautiful place the
most wonderful place place for all
nations full of love a light to the
people here we have like you said it's
tasty it's practical it's portable you
got beautiful not the back oh there's
notes on the back I love it there's
notes in the back look at that people
writing notes
inside and if you want to see something
really cool I sent you a screenshot from
we had Yeshiva mvas 250 guys they came
to Yeshiva RI and they wrote beautiful
notes and then two three days later the
r shash if you want you could I sent you
an image of that I don't know if you
could find it quickly there and the Ros
Shiva sent back a response he sent me
that one of the parents his son was in
Gaza continually and he got the beef
jerky right before Shabbat he got the
beautiful note from the Yeshiva guy and
it's just the full connection of people
writing people learning people giving
and of course the big thing here is the
full immersion like we say let me see if
you could translate
this with all of your heart with all of
your soul and with all of your worldly
possessions and and that's what a
soldier is doing and that's right really
what like for this like we've had people
that they say I'll give to a good dude
I'll give to an army unit and that's our
some of our typical request that's 500
soldiers 550 soldiers K how how does one
connect with uh with beef up our boys
how how does one connect with them so
you can go on our website beef upour
boys.com or I give you up our
boys.com can I try beef up our boys beef
up our boys.com is that right beef up
our boys there it is okay so on the
bottom there very simple very awesome
Kim you are an awesome an awesome olle
in this land you've brought so much
success and joy to so many people H and
it is an honor that I had the Merit to
be there when you when you made Aliyah
and we have a slogan for people that
make Aliah which is keep making Aliah
and that's exactly what you're doing and
I want to give you a lot of braa to
continue to succeed and thank you very
much for having giving me the honor of
speaking with you about beef upar
boys.com and I urge everybody of course
to beef up the boys just that simple
thank you thank
you m that was good I want some beef
jerky yeah that's that's good healthy
sustenance right up in there that's
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we're having a lot of there like a huge
growth that's happening there that's
right so Mala I'm actually running for
city council locally here in Judea not
as like a first place but I'm on the
list right on the council on the council
yeah Ben breesy has done a very
interesting our interpret reporter Ben
Brey has done a very interesting
retrospective yes on the story of
Israel's first elections and the
blessings of sheo that some people made
and so so Ben breki interes one of his
great skills is that he can really bring
the past back to life Ben breesy on
Israel's first
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elections this is a moment in Jewish
history Israeli Municipal elections are
coming up and this is an opportunity to
explore elections of the past every 5
years cities and municipalities vote for
mayor and city council throughout Israel
this year the election has been
postponed twice due to operation iron
swords this was done in the past for the
1973 knesset elections due to the Yom
kipor War Israel's first ever elections
were also postponed in 1948 due to war
Israel's Declaration of Independence
called for a set date for the first
elections but the surrounding Arab
countries invaded the newly established
Nation Israel's first elections were
finally held in 1949 9 here is a
description of Israel's first elections
from the Jewish telegraphic agency in
brilliant sunshine and in a quiet
holiday atmosphere Jews and Arabs
throughout Israel cast their votes today
for the first national elections since
the establishment of the Jewish State
Long cues of Voters lined up from the
early morning hours before the thousands
of pulling stations throughout the
Country Premier David Boran and his wife
were among the early voters at a station
in Northern Tel Aviv in Arab populated
areas separate lines were formed in
front of the polling stations by Arab
women this was the first time in the
life of the Arab women that they had
been permitted to cast their ballots for
many Arab men it was also the first time
that they were participating in
elections Orthodox voters recited shanu
when they cast their ballots in the
first election of the Jewish state in
Jaffa Arab propagandists healed to Arabs
to cast their ballots for the sternest
ticket which lists the Arab leader Abu
Goos as a candidate for the Israeli
National Assembly a large group of Drews
were among the voters in villages near
haa a more personal description of the
first elections can be found in the book
The Diary of a MTAR of Jerusalem the
writings of Rabbi mosha yakuel albertt
born in Israel Rabbi Alberts taught at
the prestigious aam yiva in Jerusalem in
1949 he wrote The Following at 5:35 a.m.
my wife and I got up early as did my
brother my brother-in-law and my son
Dove after we drank a quick cup of
coffee we dressed in our Shabbat clothes
in honor of this great and holy day for
which we recite This Is The Day
proclaimed by God let us rejoice and be
happy after 2,000 years of Exile
actually since the sixth days of
creation we have never had an
opportunity as today that we can go and
vote in a Jewish State Blessed Be he
that he has enabled us to live and see
this day my son Dove left the house at
5:45 and went off because he's a big
supporter of the Hut party and didn't
return until night my wife and I and my
brother and brother-in-law went to the
voting station of district 10 holding
our state of Israel issued identity
cards in our hands we walked the short
distance from our house house to the
pole with great joy we are currently
living downstairs from the gold Schmid
family since our house in beel had been
hit by a rocket and was being repaired
that is why we were assigned to this
station all the way to the polling
station I felt like on simat Torah when
we dance with the Torah but instead of a
scroll I held my Israeli ID card in my
hand you can't imagine the happiness and
joy I felt at 5:50 a.m. we came to the
building and were the first ones there
the janitor Brought The Ballot Box and
the chairman called me and my brother
over to honor the elderly and asked us
to witness the fact that the box was
indeed empty and observe its ceiling the
chairman said since I was the oldest
person there I would have the privilege
of being the first voter quivering with
emotion of awe and sanctity I gave the
chairman my identity card he gave me an
envelope and I went into the closed off
area where all the party letters were
placed with a shaking hand and a feeling
of Holiness I chose a note marked bet
the United religious party's letter and
placed it carefully in the envelope and
returned to the polling station and then
at the moment of greatest exhileration a
moment that neither my father nor my
grandfather nor any of my ancestors
experienced I recited the shanu blessing
and carefully placed the envelope in The
Ballot Box blessed am I and blessed is
my portion I shook the Chairman's hand
heartily and the other committee members
hands as well and went off to pray a
great holiday
indeed the following is from British
movie tone and British path the printing
of posters was an important part of
Israel's first election campaign 1 1200
candidates from 21 parties to be chosen
for 120 seats by an electorate of under
half a million the campaign is reported
as being a pretty noisy affair but that
was quite natural on such an exciting
occasion all shades of opinion from the
United religious front to the Communist
Party had to be expounded by loudspeaker
and by poster anyone Jew Christian or
Muslim could vote proportional
representation is the system Israel's
first general election became a matter
of some importance for the voters many
of whom are refugees from Europe it is
the first free election they have ever
experienced David benan head of the
mapai party became Israel's first prime
minister voter turnout was over
86% many colorful political parties and
elected officials ran in the first
election the party described by Rabbi
Alpert in his Memoirs as bet was the
United religious front it became the
third largest following benan mapai and
the similar mam which later joined
forces to become the labor party the
United religious front was headed by
Rabbi Yehuda Lee Fishman who later
became Yehuda myON he was one of the
founders of the misraki movement in
1902 and was arrested several times for
Zionist activity by the Russian
authorities in 1946 he was imprisoned by
the British in latrun the British
detained him on Shabbat and he refused
to ride in a vehicle and offered instead
to walk to the nearby police station the
British refused his offer and forced him
into the car myman helped draft Israel's
Declaration of Independence was one of
its signers he attempted to get his
friend David Ben Goran to add the words
trust in the god of Israel to the
Declaration but the committee opted for
a compromise with the secular members
and it says today trust in the rock of
Israel which could be interpreted in
both a religious and secular sense other
notable parties were manakan Bean's
herut party the fourth largest and the
Israeli Communist party which won one
seat in the knesset plan
another party was the yemenites
association headed by Zakaria glasa the
party's Roots went back to the 1920s as
the association of yemenis in Israel
which had delegates in the world s this
Congress and the provisional State
Council when the British still
controlled the land of Israel the
Democratic list of Nazareth was headed
by Saif Elin El zuabi who is a member of
the canet until
1979 before the establishment of the
State he worked in the hagas news
service the party's other leader was
Amin Salim jarur who was born in
Nazareth to a Christian Arab family and
attended Law School in Jerusalem he
served in the ottoman army during World
War I and later became mayor of Nazareth
the wio the women's International
Zionist organization was founded in 1920
in England and had delegates in the
Zionist movement before Israel's
independence Rachel luar
later raal Cohen Kagan represented wi in
the provisional State Council she was
later elected in the first kasset she
was a signer of the Declaration of
Independence and wrote about the
historic moment as follows the voice
that read the text was David Ben guan's
familiar voice the words were familiar
the surrounding faces also familiar and
yet it was impossible to perceive that
all of this was happening in reality
from that day I began to understand
shagal his floating figures began to
speak to my heart it was clear to me why
a bride and groom float in shal's
pictures in the air above rooftops
because I myself experienced a similar
experience in moments when a person
feels that a dream becomes reality and
joy fills his heart they are able to
soar above the rooftops to this day it
is difficult for me to put into words my
feelings on that day my lips and perhaps
human language in general are too poor I
think that only music and art can give a
proper
expression the Fighters list was headed
by Nathan fredman later Natan yelen
Moore former head of thei the fighters
for the freedom of Israel an underground
militant group dedicated to pushing the
British out of Israel he took over the
Lei after its founder arram stern was
killed by British police and led the
group with Professor Israel El and Yak
Shamir yelen Moore was a wanted man by
the British and once escaped from the
detention camp in latrun his time in
knesset was short-lived Professor elad
turned to writing and teaching Yak
Shamir joined the mosad Secret Service
and in the 1980s became prime minister
sharing the role with Shimon Perez when
their election came out a tie but that
is a story for another time this has
been a moment in Jewish history thank
you you to yesai fer thank you to all
the listeners and
Shalom Zionist history check that's
right okay God bless us to keep going
forward from those days and and keep uh
you know the start the start the match
was lit and the nation the nation is off
uh Mala I want I want to thank uh the
good Folks at Hebron the Jewish
community of which I have a great honor
and privilege of serving and praying at
the Tomb of the Patriarchs Matrix I got
to tell you Mona one of the greatest
things about my job SL life yeah is that
I get to pray at the Tomb of the patri
Matrix today for example was a day that
I didn't go into the tomb because I was
just busy but even when I drive out of
Kon I stop give a little wave of WTS and
I even stop and I try to pray a little
bit and what aot what a uh that's right
um and our Torah is so holy and you know
on other shows of this nature where you
hear about politics you might not hear
about about the Torah so first thing I
want to thank Hebron the Jewish
community of and recommend that you
check out Hebron fund.org which is doing
a great job and getting the story of Kon
out to the world and getting folks to be
part of it from from all over the world
so heon fund.org uh and the other thing
is that I was in Hebron today and in my
little Studio office I got to speak with
the one and only Ro Mike foyer nice
about this Torah portion and
specifically about one verse o
that verse that is really the purpose of
life what that's right the purpose of
life well let's find out what that is
real fast here is Rev Mike and myself
talking about the very purpose of life
in
Israel I joined today by none other than
RV Mike RV Mike foyer RV Mike welcome to
the show it's good to see you it's good
to have you back people people you're
back by popular demand uh literally I
wanted to talk with you today about one
of the most powerful verses in the Torah
which is going to be in this week's
Torah portion that verse is found in the
book of Exodus chapter
24 uh and it is
verse verse 8 no verse nine no verse
eight sorry here it is verse eight and
it just goes like
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this they shall make for me a tabernacle
or a holy place or a temple or really
really a holy place right would you
translate like that mdash they'll make
for me a sanctuary
sanctuary and I shall dwell amongst them
this word sh is from the word which
means neighbor or which means
presence and I will dwell amongst them
or inside of them within them yes within
them right so this verse has come to be
so meaningful uh and we'll we'll we'll
describe some of different ways that
it's understood but it is within a Torah
portion which is all about how to
construct a tabernacle this this is the
type of Torah portion we have not seen
this type yet in this cycle uh of Torah
reading suddenly this is the blueprint
Torah portions right and and here we
have this this verse which is in some
sense all-encompassing this is what it's
all about I'm going to give you the
blueprint what's the point of this just
a few short words make for me a
sanctuary holy place and I shall dwell
within you uh some people say well this
means you got to work out and eat
healthy because you create a sanctuary
and then the spirit dwells within you
and other people say well this means
that um you know God is going to be in
your city in your city Jerusalem and
then amongst your
people and then maybe there's a bigger
uh uh a kind of a bigger uh perspective
which is that the whole idea of the
Torah is that we create a vessel for God
in this world so that godliness resides
in this world and touches the whole
world lights up the world and the world
comes to realization that there's a God
and that he's amongst us and that and
that we actually provide him with a way
of not
being grossed out by us and distant from
us but to be within us all around us and
this world will be
uh uh what's the word I'm looking for
not infiltrated but infused infused with
godliness so I wanted to throw it out to
you
today how do you see that
verse I mean after that introduction I'm
not so sure what I can add there's a few
things that come up for me one just want
to reiterate one of the things that you
said which is that this is a call to
build
vessels right I think that that people
are often confused by the torah's
assumption that God wants Partners in
creation it's not that God can't dwell
in the world without us that's you know
it was right God can do anything that's
not the point what God wants is active
Partners in moving creation toward its
fruition and probably the most profound
expression of the relationship between
creation Creator this idea of mikash
right that that there's some way in
which the world physical world that we
know be it in the personal in the
collective or in the in the you know
sort of creation as a whole can actually
be a v for the divine presence but it
has to be
built right and if there's no other
message that one deres from the intense
detail of para that follows this sort of
General introduction is that it's not
going to be built in a simple step right
that that in in a certain sense every
action that we do every thought that we
have every emotion that we feel is meant
to be a brick in creating in our own
lives this type of mikdash and then
ultimately in our societies it functions
the same way um because otherwise the
challenge is that where does all that
energy
go right meaning meaning I I I I see our
society suffering from this today is
that you can you can pour enormous
amount of energy into
progress um into you know um
achievements but without a central
organizing principle you will always be
hobbled in your ability to achieve I
know this as a as a counselor and life
coach people don't have Clear Vision
then even their daily goals will lack
Direction so I would say that that what
this is is that the center point tells
us this is the mission connect Heaven
and Earth and we can talk about the
different scales that you named this I
think the simple reading here is as a
national effort but I think that the um
the notion that it applies personally
and to Creation as a whole are true as
well but but without this Central
connecting Vision the risk is that our
tremendous efforts to build the world
will basically fall apart how many
teenagers do you think you could go to
and say tell me tell me what the purpose
of life is and they'll say to you well
the purpose of life that's that's kind
of simple which is to create for God a
domain in this lower world to create for
him a space just just that simple
concept that that our job is to create a
place for God's presence now I don't
know if you want to touch on this or not
but
like I'm gonna I'm gonna go big here why
would God want that why would he want us
to work on creating a space for him
isn't the whole world his creation and
therefore his
space well well God is the space of the
world the world is not the space of God
that's how our sages said it which is
have many implications that were perhaps
left unstated right now but the simple
one is that that God created the world
out of a desire for
relationship you know I I that we have
to go all the way back to the first
couple of chapters of Genesis and just
recall two simple
statements right one is that humanity is
created in the image of
God right that's a beautiful powerful
and embracing principle the other one
you know I say that's the first
statement about human nature the first
statement about the human condition is
it's not good for Humanity to be alone
right so put the two together logically
if humanity is created in the image of
God and it's not good for Humanity to be
alone then it's not good for God to be
alone
right but here's the problem so to speak
that the Creator faces is that God is
able to do anything without anyone else
what God wants is a relationship and
that requires an as to some degree some
sort of peer or equal at least a
partner and that's why God is the place
of the world but the world is not the
place of God God stands outside the
world and waits for us to invite God in
not that God can't be here but it's the
invitation that matters it's the effort
to build the vessel that matters not the
vessel itself per se right but it there
has to be something
that's the product because it can't just
be an
intention and I'm telling you from my
experience as a coach and a counselor
without concrete
Vision then your your your goals and
your daily tasks will will lack the
power to really change you or the world
around you yeah definitely I I I so wish
that we could kind of distill what you
just said and and place it as like a
index card in front of every teenager in
the world and be like okay you know our
job is to have a relationship with God
and to give him a a a safe space if you
will uh in this in this lower world and
and there's nothing more beautiful than
revealing God in this
corporeal universe that although he
created it it it it hides him and that
our job is to reveal him and channel him
in this world I want to go out on a li
for a second go ahead what say you ready
I want to go out on a limb for a second
all right go people um are speaking a
lot today about the lack of vision from
our leadership and perhaps you might
even say the lack of leadership
altogether that that Amel is is facing I
I would say this is because we've
abandoned the vision of the temple as as
a
society that has always been our driving
if you had stopped a Jew on the street
in 18th century Poland or or you know
15th century North Africa or you know
keep going you know 10th Century Babylon
or what have you and ask where's this
all headed they would have said well
back to Jerusalem to build the
temple and it's one of the most
important questions in understanding
Jewish history to understand how it is
that when we actually began to make that
process real in the world establish a
state and then ultimately conquered
Jerusalem again Etc how it is that that
Vision not only um sort of fell away but
in certain sense within large portions
of our leadership core became
athma right you're you're a crazy
messiness if you want to build the
temple today you're not a person who is
connected to the essential vision of
Judaism historically and the Torah in
its Essence oh and you're dangerous well
that's the crazy part right crazy
message you're gonna set the Middle East
on fire right well there's a difference
between crazy and dangerous going on out
there anyway that's right um um and yet
the those forces that see the building
of a third Temple as dangerous and
crazy similar forces or or related
forces are fond or were fonded of
calling Israel itself the Third Temple
or the third Commonwealth sure now on
the one hand I think that there's a
great lack in using the term third
Commonwealth because I I was with a
Japanese reporter
today and I said to him this is is not
our first rodeo here this is our third
Commonwealth and I laid it out to him
and I said to him you sir are Tanaka you
are from an ancient peoples as well you
know what that's like I started talking
to him about the ancient stones that
they have in Japan these tsunami stones
that worn them whatever and I just and
he got into it and I was like I was like
we're an ancient peoples on this land so
I do love and I think that it's I think
it's very under
underuse underutilize underutilize the
language of the third Commonwealth I I
mean I mean I started thinking that we
should have this on our flag like the
third Commonwealth Israel the third
Commonwealth this is like this should be
like this should be like you know
something that we use all the time the
third
Commonwealth and and just use that
language all the time because that will
undermine the you know occupation style
narrative where where Johnny come lately
Colonial
lie but but what I wanted to ask ask you
maybe on historical level as well
is there there was such a concept that
this is the the state of Israel is the
Third Temple some people find that
offensive they find that to mean that
the state the secular state will replace
the concept of the temple and another
way of saying it is like no this is the
era of the Third Temple the state of
Israel is its Beginnings as we say in
the
prayers the beginnings of our Redemption
so how do you see that the era of the
Third Temple so I mean it makes perfect
sense that the founders of the state
called it the third Commonwealth and
even and even in a sense called the
state itself the Third Temple because it
was the secular expression of their
Messianic impulse you can't remove the
Messianic vision from the roots of
Zionism despite the fact that many if
not most of the driving personalities
had rejected traditional Judaism and and
and were quite um often antagonistic
even toward it nonetheless the the
momentum of 2,000 years is what they
were building on furthermore like I said
you you can't have a a Redemptive Vision
which is powerful enough to trigger a
national rebirth after two Millennia
that doesn't have an end point and one
of the challenges that secular Zionism
the world that really thought of the
state as the third temple one of the
challenges it has faced for quite some
time is that once the state came into
being its purpose was achieved which is
why there's been this struggle to
maintain a sense of collective effort
and idealism and know granted you know
for the first say uh 30 years things
were hard enough that just survival was
right the state was not an assured thing
so there right building I'll tell you
you could say it really began 67 but
once the 80s rolled
around once the 80s rolled around and it
became very clear that we weren't really
although present events might contradict
this we weren't really in an existential
struggle any longer as Mak Bean called
the Lebanon the first Lebanon war
Israel's first war of choice right um so
once that happened it opened up a space
of saying well wait a minute if I'm not
really driving toward anything then what
what am I sacrificing for like why life
is hard and and life in Israel in
particular demands much of people um and
and you know and so that's that's one
answer why you know why they would they
would call it that
uh the the other piece is you know that
R cook was fond of speaking about um and
he was of that generation of of the
secular Zionist he wasn't a secular Zion
but who would call the state or the
pre-state the efforts toward building
the third Republic and even the Third
Temple he was spond of speaking speaking
he was spond of speaking of the effort
of of you know building the vessel and
then sanctifying the
vessel and this is something you still
hear the students of the students speak
about today
right
right make me a sanctuary and I will
dwell amongst you there so there's a
physical building
there may be a state or a temple but
then there's the true sanctification
that draws God into the world and it
could be that we're in a process now and
we really have the strongest state in
Jewish history I think that that that
we've surpassed the power that Herod
wielded during the Roman era and the
Hans wielded during the late Greek era
um you know maybe David and Solomon but
may maybe not I mean we can if we choose
to do so we we wield quite a bit of
power um a the question is what are we
going to do with it and this is the
problem that plagues our society what
are we going to do with it and if your
answer to that is we're going to live a
normal life and we just want to be like
everybody else I got news for you the
footsteps of Jewish history are so loud
that coming after you with that attitude
that you should uh you should just it
goes back to what you said before which
is which is a question of of how do you
visualize yourself how do you what's
what's your what's your internal
chronometer telling you what what do you
what do you what are you doing like
what's your goal and if you have this
goal of being a channel and you know you
know I I have um two slogans for Israel
which I think which I think they're
they're very easy they're like slogans
that I think would be touristic slogans
one is land of
Miracles right Israel land of Miracles
right I think people would be drawn to
that it's a land of Miracles
another way of saying that is land of
Revelation but I think that's a little
scarier I like land of Miracles
the I love land of Miracles but I meant
to say I only meant to the second one in
order to get you a sense that Miracles
means Revelation means God's revelation
land of Miracles and another another
slogan for Israel is Israel land of
blessings so simple and once you once
you embody that
again
embody that right like embody that
Israel is a land of blessings and like
our job is to channel blessings into
this
world it becomes a great resend detor it
becomes like a reason to live and do it
to be like a channel for God's presence
in this world and I I just I know about
my own life it it it it fills you it
fills you it literally fills you as
in like it becomes inside of you and it
starts to to Glow out of your face like
it did with Moses I mean I happen to
agree with you but you're obviously
aware of the challenge that it poses
because it rests in the assumption that
God not only exists but desires a
relationship something which which I
hold very dear and is a central facet of
my my my my daily practice forget my um
you know my thought processes but it's a
big challenge it's a big challenge
freighted with a lot of pain and
difficulty and and poor education and
judgment I mean you know like am Israel
just am Israel forget the nations of the
world for a minute just am Israel we
hadn't passed through the last couple
hundred years in an easy
fashion and and and the hands of those
of us who are striving to live Torah are
not clean in that
difficulty you know like one of the
things another thing that Ralph cook
said which has always resonated with me
is that you no one ever became a heretic
because of what they read in a book
people leave Torah and they abandon God
because they look at religious people
who claim to represent God in the world
and they see that we're not actually
doing so okay so let me rip off the Riff
of that and the Riff is exactly the
opposite which is you said right now
that some people are turned off and they
say this ain't it because they meet the
bad guy at the synagogue they meet the
bad Rabbi or they had the bad experience
it's over but you know there is a group
that is always talking about the Third
Temple and that is the Jihad the enemies
of Israel they are completely sure it
they are completely sure that we're on
this quest to build a third Temple and
in fact one of the uh Jihad documents
aamas document that was released oh no
it was a spokesman aamas spokesman who
said
well you know one of the reasons we
started this war is because they brought
in these five red he
that are right
now it was World n daily broke it and
they said you know one of the complaints
that Kamas had was like we got to start
this war because they're flying in these
red heers from Texas I know the people
I've interviewed on the on my show the
people that brought the the red heers
and there are literally five red heers
in Shilo did they actually fly them in
they they they it was it's it's a it's a
half a million dollar story it's a long
and unbelievable story they flew
these guys in they flew in these red
heers from Texas it's a it's a story huh
first class yeah
it's I I want to make a good joke I I
just I let's just
not yeah yeah well they really know how
to move okay anyway they flew over
instead of make a good joke you made a
bad no that was a bad joke bad pun but
the point is is that and not a joke for
the
Jihad
their whole thing is that this war is
about Jerusalem this war they literally
name it the alaka flood they're trying
to flood out the Zionist and the wouldbe
third Templars from from from breaching
the walls of Jerusalem their Jerusalem
their aluts and they want to they and
and and and another example is one of
the things that Kamas demanded in the
recent negotiations with Israel is that
all visitation to the Temple Mount would
stop that was literally one of their
demands
and sadly something that many in our
government would say hey what do I care
so stop that that's an easy answer sure
sure but the point is is that they're
they are totally convinced that this
whole war is about Jerusalem and that
and that the Third Temple the Jewish
Third Temple is on the way and then they
have to do everything to stop it and and
that you know they are much more
concerned about this and you know you're
and you're right you know they're like
they're like you're trying to build a
third Temple a lot of times the Israeli
government's like no no no no
no nobody hear is trying to work on a
third
Temple you know and then there's and
then there's other Jews are like no no
we are we working on a third Temple but
but but but I just so my question to you
is let's flip let's flip it to from the
perspective of of of the enemies or by
the way lovers of Israel as well who are
like you know hey I think you guys are
trying to build a third Temple like
what's our relationship with the
Gentiles with the world everybody's
talking about the world all the time
there's a world out there that sees
Israel as as as building a third Temple
what's what's what's going on from their
perspective well I I I think you know
like I said before that the essence of
what it is to be a a Jew and certainly
as a people is that we have a task it's
a it's a human capacity but it's a
Jewish responsibility let's say to
connect Heaven and
Earth that that's like that's that's
what we ja from Jacob's dream on right
yeah I mean that's one of the reasons
that the that Jacob's Ladder is in many
ways the archetypical symbol
by the way by the way just just
parenthetically notice notice what I
noticed since I lived in beel where that
story happened is that that is one of
the Lesser used uh uh icons of of Jewish
iconography I happen to know this is a
pet peeve of
yours yes no it's true I think it's one
of the less used because it's it's one
of the least understood and it also
relates to the fact that that
um for better or
worse I want want to say most Jews they
they just want to live a normal life
they want to live a normal life like why
connect Heaven and Earth yeah in your
personal Behavior right what does it
mean to be to be amula right we saw a
couple pars ago that God called us a
treasured people a nation of of
ministers and a holy people this is a
very big demand I'll tell you what it
doesn't mean it doesn't mean that we get
to go to the head of the line in the
grocery store or and that our interest
rates are lower and that the whole world
should just you know no what it means is
that we have a lot of work to do right
and it never
ceases it never ceases that the demand
of focus
intentionality and
constructive
energy in every action is there right
613 Mito in the entire Corpus of law
that emerges from it means that a Jew
never wastes a moment if they're on
their game obviously we're human as well
but nonetheless that's the expectation
on your personal level level Community
speaking also so right whether it's the
whether it's the obligations for
education and and creating sort of
mikdash ma what we call in the synagogue
and other spaces of learning and
sanctuary as a national peoples the
world are looking to us and saying like
we want Heaven and Earth to
connect there is something lacking and
either they're looking at saying they
want to usurp our position right which
is what the the jihadists are want to do
claim that their Prophet came along and
is Judaism 3.0 and and that and that
they've got so therefore they want to
and this is a consistent pattern of
Islam and history of of destroying and
building over the sacred places of other
peoples by a physical assertion of
repacement that they have come along and
taken all the sanctity into their path
right so therefore they're convinced
that we're going to try to push back on
that because they understand it's our
essential nature and often times your
enemies understand you better than you
and the other nations I assume you're
speaking about certain elements within
the Christian world who are um
supportive of the Zionist project
because of their own sort of eschatology
their own vision of the end of days um
they know especially those who do so
without antagonism with this very new
sort of like interest in seeing the Jews
as a as a partner in the process they
know that we have a capacity that we
have not yet
exercised they definitely do they
definitely have a a keen sense of that
it's a strange example but I think it's
an important one if you look in some of
the
oldest um the oldest uh works of law in
European he the visigothic code there's
a fun one right visoth visoth were the
German tribe who ruled the Iberian
Peninsula before the Muslims came in no
big fans of the Jews the visigothic code
encodes many of the classic uh
anti-semitic as we would call it
principles of that came a big part of
European law one of the things it says
there is you're not allowed to hire a
Jew to bless your
Fields what does that tell you Jews to
bless Fields people were hiring Jews to
bless their fields that's right and they
and they believed it
worked here here in Hebron where I am
right now at my studios in Hebron um
there was a a
raban a wife of a rabbi but but herself
a holy person her name was Manar the
Arabs wanted her to walk on their fields
because she was a source of blessing
that's a fact that is a fact here in
kevron they would ask her to walk in the
fields yeah so it's exactly what you're
talking about that's awesome that's
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thank you very much and want to bless
you that you continue to uh uh help
Channel godliness into this world and so
that we can uh talk about not just the
third Commonwealth but also the Third
Temple in realistic terms as uh as at
least with as much energy as our enemies
are talking about it yeah please God God
bless you Mike thank you so
much
all right Mike foyer wow he's one and
only right him and I have a special
chemistry it's a real gift when I get a
chance to speak with him and I really I
I'm going to listen to that audio again
because it inspired me some deep
stuff that's the that's the ultimate
verse that maybe maybe it's the ultimate
verse in the Bible maybe it's certainly
in the running certainly in the running
um okay uh MAA I also want to thank the
the good Folks at at high on thear right
which is uh getting you up on the Temple
Mount High onthe har.com and uh the one
and only MJ and the good folks there
will get you up in holding this and
awesomeness my mom is up on the Temple
Mount every week and she's a Temple
Mount faithful that's right say it own
it and do not be embarrassed about it
say say it out there I'm a temple mouth
faithful say it out loud say wherever
you are in your car right now say it I'm
a temple mouth faithful uh so that's
really awesome uh and I want to also
when I think about the temple man I also
think about cycling through Jerusalem on
kosher cycl tours.com and just seeing
that beautiful beautiful land now it's
such a beautiful weather out also would
be great time for a kosher cycle tour
that's right it would be it's time for
us to go on a kosher cycle tour okay
speaking of kosher mhm you know uh
there's a new book out there called
kosher giving and it's about a proper
charity and thinking about about about
about uh about philanthropy and and my
good friend uh um AI Zimmerman is the
author and I got to speak with him
earlier today so let's hear about coer
giving my good friend AI Zimmerman has
written a new book which is called the
donor's guide to War and Peace we're in
war trying to get to peace it's called
kosher giving great title four steps to
creating your meaningful Mindful and
measurable philan philanthropy plan
which is great you know uh because when
we want to get stuff done in this world
we need philanthropy it really matters
I've actually I actually love
fundraising and I think it's a beautiful
art and I love people who give uh I
think that people give are really part
of whatever they do in their work life
however they've made their money but
they actually want to keep using their
money to get real things done in this
world I actually think it's a very
beautiful thing and I'm always you know
surprised when people say w you know I
hate fundraising why do you hate
fundraising don't you want to get
awesome stuff done in this world uh so
that's why I am very interested in my
friend's new book and AI Zimmerman joins
us today Avi welcome to the program you
are the founder and CEO of sector for
strategy which is an israel-based
advisory firm and you've written this
book about giving all right let's hear
about it why'd you write this
book well first of all yesi thank you
for this opportunity it is awesome to
spend time with Yi even if it's through
a screen anytime we get to spend
together is always a pleasure um for
those who don't know we go way back to
Hebrew Youth Academy which isn't even
called Hebrew Youth Academy anymore
Joseph kusher Hebrew Academy so there's
a history there why write the book I
asked myself the same question that
everybody asked themselves at the very
beginning of the war which is what is my
role what am I supposed to be doing and
honestly yesai they didn't take me for
milim I've been out of reserves for
eight years and I needed to do the best
I could to align my talents the work
that our advisory firm was doing with
some sort of offering and before the
book we actually started a website
called K giving.com because we
understood that there's a challenge when
you have a few things that seem to
really work together very nicely but if
they're not put together nicely or well
or the systems are out of sync then we
have a problem specifically there was an
unprecedented and to a large degree
there remains an unprecedented set of
needs causes that need to be tended to
here in Israel because of the war that
happened immediately the next piece
though was like you just said yesai
people who want to do good and
unprecedented giving from the beginning
of the war and even until now people who
want to get involved even if they're not
here on the ground and so they were
giving unprecedented numbers also
unprecedented voluntarism here in Israel
some people coming from abroad largely
Israeli Society just everybody getting
involved because it needed to happen and
so You' think that when there are these
needs so okay that's a real big problem
but it's a really big solution when we
have all the means coming in and all the
people on the ground getting involved
but the reality is things don't come
together that easily or that uh they're
not that well aligned and in our role as
an advisory firm we basically rolled up
our sleeves and we said we're not just
going to work with philanthropists
individuals we're going to get this out
to the masses we set up a website and
after setting up that website which did
daily causes daily worthy and
trustworthy causes and we never said
this is the most important heaven forbid
everything is the most important but
what we said was we've done some vetting
and you now have information at your
fingertips to make your own decision if
this is something you want to give to
because this provides you with the
access and the familiarity in a certain
degree of vetting to give you that
kosher status for the given project but
we needed to do something else and
that's where this idea of the guide book
the handbook the howto for the
philanthropist the donor and I don't
want to use the word philanthropist
because that's scary if I don't give a
million dollars a year I'm not a
philanthropist no if you give $1 a year
but you give it like it's a million
dollars you give it because you're doing
so meaningfully mindfully and measurably
then you're a philanthropist but you
have to definitely definitely I I think
I think there's another shorter word
which also works which is supporter I
think people are supporting things and
they and and there and and the real word
is is a really fair word it's a builder
you know people that people that give to
causes they want to be building it they
want to see it built and it depends on
the level but at some point you are not
just supporting it you're really a
builder
um so I think that's that's awesome uh
give me give me a success story about
how kosher giving has helped people um
give in a m Kosher Way well it it starts
with um everybody who even pre-read the
book this is a brand new book and bem
thank God hit number one bestseller in
multiple categories at launch week which
is two weeks ago and now we're going
from uh from the paperback excuse me not
the paperback we're going from the
Kindle with the ebook now this week I
just got the approval and we now go to
printing uh in the United States and so
we've gotten really amazing endorsements
wonderful accolades etc etc but the
people who read the book were speaking
about how it is transformative for them
the way that they approach giving by
having this um methodology that really
breaks down the different parts of why
we give what we give how we give and
this is all based upon U it's based upon
Tanakh it refers to the ROM's approach
the his hierarchy of giving um so we
have our contribution the Jewish
people's contribution to giving is baked
into the book but the people who read
the book speak about how transformative
it has been for them or how they've
their eyes have been opened to again the
fact that whatever their giving level
they could be giving more purposefully
and more impactfully that means
basically in a short kind of version is
we often give because people have access
to us just night I got a WhatsApp from
my niece who's raising money for an
organization that I happen to love have
to read about the organization because
my niece asked me so I'm going to give
because my niece asked me but the truth
is that's actually not strategic giving
that that has its own Dynamic to it we
we turn on a different part of our mind
a different part of our Human Experience
when we give money which is an
investment it's a philanthropic
investment but it's an investment as
opposed to the way that we give when we
give our Capital Investments and there's
something good about that because it's
pulling on our heartstrings but perhaps
we could do better if we use some some
of those best practices from the world
of business and apply them to the giving
that we do giving is not recreational
giving needs to be intentional we can do
better we can give better and we need
the tools to do that okay give me just
one example throw out something to me
about about better giving using the a
Tanakh thinking or or or or a business
thinking uh an example so throughout the
book there's a ton of examples they I'll
give you an example first from from the
world of the organizations themselves
I'll I'll speak to this uh young woman
Dr Elana quartin and she is a
representative of a community not far
from kevron um called eliav it's a young
Community very zionis Community it's not
in udav Shon it's not in Judea and
Samaria but it's not far from there and
there are some security risks and the
security risks were very very real at
the beginning of the war um they're real
for everybody but they basically the IDF
said after October 7th we've come to the
conclusion that you guys need to defend
yourselves that's a really big piece of
news especially when everybody just went
off to reserve duty so Elana and others
in the community got together said okay
we need to beef up our uh our First
Responders team our kitat konut we also
need to be up some of the other security
around the community so how are we going
to go about doing that well we're going
to speak to some people that we know and
start raising some funds everybody's
doing it let's do the same they put up a
campaign and what happened just in the
days that they started reaching out to
people others on the other side were
saying you know what how do we know that
you're for real we just heard that Hamas
is you know challenging is is not
challenging excuse me Hamas is coming up
with all kinds of fake accounts and fake
things I never heard of elav I never
heard of your fundraising platform
you're not even for real and that's a
real slap in the face to somebody who's
trying to defend their Community right
but but that but that is one of the
biggest problems in in in in donor in in
philanth philanthropy which is like
credibility 100% Providence and that's
why that's why when you're when your
niece writes to you on WhatsApp you're
like I know my niece and I you know I
know what she's doing so how do you you
know getting around the problem of of of
getting trust and knowing that these
people are going to use that money in
the proper way uh and and and believing
that they're who they say they are that
that's a real issue that's why people
also give a lot of times to like these
big organizations because they're like
okay it's hadasa you know it's it's
hebreu whatever it is is I know it I
know what I'm going to get you know
where my money's going to go but
sometimes it doesn't go to that specific
project that you want because you just
don't know if you can trust 100% so what
Elana needed to do was to build that
trust person by person and give all of
the reporting that was necessary and
build that relationship over time and
they c those donors came to the point
where they said not okay I'll give you a
little something but here you go and
what else do you need but she needed to
Steward that relationship I just give a
presentation to some 8 nonprofits today
uh yesterday excuse me specifically
about this helping them look at the
other side of uh better giving because
the better that they can understand
what's really going through the mind of
the philanthropist the donor supporter
companion or partner in whatever it is
that's being built um the better that
they can um they can learn to Steward
that relationship okay so there's a lot
of pieces here there's a lot of moving
Parts but you're 100% correct by the way
you know there's some built-in
challenges to the big organizations and
to the small small organizations that's
part of why things haven't gone so
smoothly all the time the big
organization with a big um team is very
capable of handling with their fiduciary
responsibilities the millions of dollars
that are coming into the coffers but
they're not really good at getting those
millions of dollars down to the the
Grassroots individual volunteer who's
trying to get diapers for heaven forbid
someone you know who just lost their
mother on October 7th or the baby
formula they just they don't have the
relationship
you go to the other side you go to the
people who are on the ground they don't
they wouldn't know what to do with the
million dollars if you gave it to them
and they wouldn't know how to report and
they wouldn't how how to Steward that
relationship so there are some built-in
challenges that if everybody's doing
this better if the philanthropist on one
side is giving better and they
understand how to get into that into
that Dynamic and they understand how to
go about their decision-making and how
to Pivot or how to respond to to crisis
or extreme circumstances like we're
experiencing still today and on the
other hand the nonprofits know how to
Steward those relationships or Steward
those gifts effectively then we're going
to get to a better place right A lot of
times I'll tell a potential donors I'll
say to them your money turns to action
with me and I will be to send you a
video every week of the progress and
that's what I do and I'm like here's
here's what here's what we did here's
what we're doing you've seen it yourself
also of course usually I say to them
come and see the place first come and
see heon come and see what we're up to
don't like take my word for it then
start small with me give me something
see if I fulfilled my fiduciary duty to
you yes okay you can choose to keep
going but I'm always putting in these
things to say to them like I you know
I'm not saying trust me I'm saying like
take a step with me take a step a small
step pudding and that's also a message
for that for those who are in the
nonprofit space um your integrity is
part of the currency that people are
investing in they're really giving to
the people you know people give to
people right especially when people are
at a great distance the only thing they
have to go on is their cred is their
credibility their integrity uh that's a
big uh that's a that's a heavy weight to
carry you know when you invest with
somebody um at your you know investment
um again your Capital Investments
whatever they may be you're actually not
asking about their integrity so much you
just want to know that they're doing
things by the book they might not be the
best person in the world you're okay
with that they're giving you you know
the bottom line and that's coming back
to you and that's okay but if the person
you're working with in a nonprofit is a
person who you don't trust you're not
giving him anything and um but again
there's there's just a different way of
approaching these different things um
the idea of kosher giving is is really
first and foremost what's going on now
in Israel but it it's an evergreen
process that we hope to get out there
and really build a kosher giving
community and uh not only of Jews um the
idea is you know meaningful Mindful and
measurable even if you don't keep a
Kosher diet those are things those are
principles that we can apply to lots of
parts of life including what we eat but
also including the way that we AI
Zimmerman is the bestselling author of a
brand new book kosher giving it's brand
new but it's already bestselling four
steps to creating your meaningful
mindful measurable philanthropy plan but
it's from Israel with Jewish and Israeli
thinking and and Torah thinking AI
Zimmerman you're doing great work as
usual God bless you and be successful in
getting this important message out to
folks amen thank you so much Isha all
right folks you are learning a lot here
we're learning a lot about kosher kosher
could also be in money it could be in a
lot of a lot of uh parts of life you
need a little bit more koshering and
that's of course for Jews and non-jews
around the world obious are remember
thanks again thank you yesan okay and
we're back Mala I hope you are Kosher
giving okay I hope that you that reminds
me of an article I read recently that
said that there was like a huge surge in
Jewish
philanthropy in the last four months
largely spurred by this
War um but it was like it was a whole
feature article about like all the
organizations that that raised funds and
that they use them for all kinds of
things and how they're Distributing it
1,000 million per really so nice the
Jewish people I have to say that that in
the beginning of the war that was one of
the most moving things to me was to see
how Jews and our friends around the
world um galvanized and just did their
best you know what I mean did but like
really did their best you know there
there were stories of people standing at
the airports with their credit cards
ready to pay for tickets of soldiers
making their way home to to serve and
people who would buy up whole stores
worth of you know deodorant or shampoo
and put them in a in a bag and and ship
them off on an airplane people who who
invested in all kinds of military
equipment people who really dedicated
themselves to doing everything in their
power whatever their level of power was
um to to you know thrust their their
power behind the Jewish people in the
land of Israel and it meant so much it
still means a
lot thank you hasem for every
opportunity every moment to be a part of
it and thank you to all the good people
around the world that are that are part
of the story and and um I don't know
where you're at but if you've lost any
steam I which is not hard which is not
hard and understandable let's get that
steam this this show it's the steam
machine okay it's here to get you help
you get that steam back and that energy
back and we've heard from so many good
people about the great stories about the
past and the present and heroism and and
giving and and and bring building the
Temple and so many so many good friends
and so much good energy out there I also
want to thank uh y mosha Herman Tabitha
uh doid Luen were live who did I forget
Ben Ben Bry of course of course that's
right of being part of this team and
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strength let's give each other strength
let's give each other strength and I'm
giving you the good eye the eye of
blessing and the channel of blessing
channel of blessing channel of blessing
use that term channel of blessing Maka
you didn't you didn't get a chance to be
with me with r Mike foer I said to him
that I have I have really two slogans
for Israel okay land of Miracles yes
Israel land of Miracles isn't that
something that would draw people in M
it's just correct right but no but it's
a slogan Israel land of Miracles we got
to make put on that on a shirt yeah
let's put that on a shirt let's put and
we got to get the stuff out there Israel
land of Miracles and then I came up with
another one which is I think somebody
helped me come up with this one which is
Israel land of
blessings land of blessings well you for
years you've said on your shows uh
blessings from the land of blessings
that's right exactly right Israel land
of blessings so that's exactly what this
is about and I want to thank all of you
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you very much for being with us and we
send you blessings from the land of
blessings as we said before it's still
very true it's true trer truer than ever
that's trer than ever it's getting even
truer by the minute because we're
getting closer to the time of full
Redemption and the Third Temple on that
Temple Mount and a light into the world
it's just going to be a moment where
people are like actually I do want God
actually I do want to be part of Israel
actually I do want to go to Jerusalem
and touch God and and and and and
worship the god of Israel and to thank
him for everything that he's created in
this world that's that's I want to
connect to the god of Abraham Isaac and
Jacob that's his eternal name that is
his eternal name yes hang in there
people that's right don't break don't
don't don't let nobody break you we're
we're just getting started over here and
MAA before I finish up just one last
thing I want to remind everybody Today's
Show is dedicated uh to the 15th y site
the passing day of Abraham Ben Mayor
Cohen who did a lot of stuff in life uh
being a patriarch an officer in the US
Navy uh a successful person who gave
charity and supported his family and
many other people Jews and non-jews God
bless his soul and and may Hashem give
him a continued Aliyah in in the heavens
and may all those who who gave of
themselves the best they could in life
may may their nishas have an alyah and
may uh may we may we see them again with
the coming of Mia and may God protect
the soldiers of the IDF may God protect
Israel and all the lovers of Israel and
this time and may God give us strength
to be Fighters thank you and God bless
you wherever you are shabbat shalom
shabbat
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shalom