you are going to be involved in a debate
next week where you you will argue that
anti-zionism is
anti-Semitism tell me why you think that
is the case because there are many on
the left in particular who argue that
being anti-israel being
anti-zionist is not the same as being
anti-semitic and they Point often to the
fact that there are prominent Jews who
call themselves
anti-zionists yeah um I'm going to keep
my power drive for Toronto on Monday
night uh but it's a it's a uh giving it
away I'm not giving anything away I mean
it's a topic that's incredibly important
because um just look at the way in which
this word Zionist is now thrown around I
mean the the the disgust with which it's
thrown around uh uh the way in which
this word uh that describes this Noble
wonderful concept of Jewish statehood is
being used as a
slur and um you know as I say once again
and I've seen it myself saw it recently
in Australia in Melbourne and Sydney you
had protesters screaming about zionists
zionists do they know what they're
talking about I don't think so um so I I
do want to set the record straight on
some of that uh uh I think that this is
an extraord ordinary moment where uh
there should be a Moment of clarity in
the west about this and instead I think
that we're seeing an explosion of
bigotry and uh I'm looking forward to
getting into the weeds uh in Toronto on
Monday so I think it's sold out but
anyone who wants to come to Roy Thompson
Hall perhaps they can uh um bribe their
way to get a ticket I don't
know well I pity whoever is facing you
in this debate you're not a man I would
want to be having a all out debate on
particularly on an issue like this
because I know you're passionate about
it and the debate is timely because uh
we now have people Marching In America
and elsewhere in the west calling on
Hezbollah to murder zionists and and
there's it's just disturbing footage
let's have a quick
look kill another so
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and also want to get your reaction
Douglas to what we've seen unfold after
the rescue of those four
hostages so much criticism of Israel's
tactics and the alleged collateral
damage from the rescue mission was there
another way for Israel to rescue its
people should they have issued a warning
as the BBC suggested before launching
the
mission um it's amazing first of all on
the hear people just notice again uh
like the
KKK these people don't have the
confidence to show their faces isn't it
interesting that they're calling for
support for genocidal terrorist
organization but weirdly they cover
their faces maybe maybe they're not so
sure of their views maybe they're not so
proud of them maybe they know that Mommy
wouldn't be so proud of them who knows
um as for uh as as for the sort of the
the the the raid this week uh much of
the media reported it as the the the the
release of four Israeli hostages they
weren't uh Brave Israelis um who were
superbly trained uh went in and freed
and rescued these uh uh poor three men
and one woman um and uh the reporting on
this has been Absol absolutely
despicable you mentioned the BBC
journalist who asked an Israeli official
uh why they didn't give an advanced
warning of the raid in Gaza um I don't
know that's like asking somebody why
they didn't go up to somebody and and
and say I'm so sorry I can't come to
your surprise birthday party I mean the
uh the whole point of a raid like this
is that it's a surprise and the reason
is uh that if you'd have given um
advanced warning uh to Hamas in Gaza uh
then the hostages would like most likely
have been killed or Spirited Away to a a
tunnel uh that hamaz has built at all of
our expense in the west um the I mean I
I'm stunned as I've said to you before
Rita the the simple lack of empathy with
the situation that the Israelis are in
they have more than a 100 hostages still
held by Hamas and Islamic Jihad and
Terror groups and journalist
and others so-call journalists in Gaza
they want to get the hostages home if
Hamas wanted to end the war it could end
it tomorrow by handing over the hostages
Israel found the opportunity to get four
of the hostages out they were being
harbored in civilian homes in a civilian
area and uh there is a war going on
there and you know the people who
say uh you know there was collateral
damage there were people killed innocent
people killed um I wouldn't believe the
Hamas figures by the way and those the
ones that most the media have run with
as ever but uh even if any CI innocent
civilians were killed obviously that's
that's sad but you know the problem is
is that there's it's almost like there's
a moral lesson in this don't kidnap
people and hold them in your house