now my next guest has been at the
Forefront of challenging the left's
Relentless culture wars he's had
enormous success in exposing just how
extreme and dangerous this movement has
become but also how completely vacuous
it is his documentaries including the
brilliant what is a woman have achieved
huge commercial success and they have
also opened the eyes of many to what is
being pushed in the name of diversity
inclusion and Equity let's have a look
at his latest groundbreaking work am I
racist let's be clear what's happening
in this country it's
Nazism Republicans are Nazis you cannot
separate yourselves from the bad white
people is it cuz I said I had 17 black
friends it might have been 15 I it
depends on how you count
them am I racist I would really
appreciate it if you left I'm trying to
learn I'm on this journey can you please
leave if I'm going to sort this out I
need to go deeper undercover if I want
to be an ally I need to look like
one joining me now is The Man Behind am
I racist Dei certified Matt Walsh Matt
firstly congratulations on the success
of this film it's clever it's funny
really funny and it's been hugely
successful at the box office after only
a couple of weeks it was the highest
grossing documentary of the Year despite
the fact that critics refused to review
the
film yeah that's exactly right it was uh
you know it's I I I'm not sure I don't
know if we keep track of this kind of
thing but I think it's probably uh one
of the only films that had a wide
release theatrically and debuted top
five at the box office and yet was not
reviewed by uh a single mainstream film
critic and you know it was in it was in
theaters for F four five six weeks and
never got those reviews now it's on
dailywire.com streaming uh so everybody
can see it after they become members uh
and through this this whole run still
the mainstream film critics are
basically trying to pretend that the
movie uh doesn't exist which is uh which
which is which is interesting to
me absolutely and if you're interested
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now the film may have been SN by critics
but the viewers have given it a 97%
rating which is enormous that's the same
rating the godfa part two has the best
one uh Now Matt tell me about your
transformation from conservative white
heteronormative man uh the enemy if you
will have it to the certified Dei expert
complete with man bun were you treated
differently after this transformation
and how did so many fall for this Ro
ruise I was treated differently you know
I I got the actual certification and
it's they give you a little card they
mailed it to me and I found that that
card opens a lot of doors I mean
literally opens a lot of doors and I
think it's because you know on the left
uh they are very careful about uh about
who they engage with I think they're
aware that a lot of their ideas are just
don't don't stand up to scrutiny and in
particular the race Hustlers the Dei con
artists who put this stuff I mean they
know I think they know at some level
that their ideas are utterly vacuous and
shallow and and uh and fragile and fall
apart under the slightest scrutiny so uh
what we discovered is it's pretty simple
is as long as you um present yourself as
someone who is not going to challenge
them as someone who is as they would say
safe uh then they'll they'll welcome you
with open arms and and more importantly
and this is what we wanted to bring out
in the film um they'll just be honest
they'll tell you what they actually
think and they'll behave in the ways
that they would actually behave um in
real life and and that's what we wanted
to bring out in the film that's why we
approach it the way we did where I'm you
know where I am presenting myself as
someone who who agrees with them and is
just eager to learn more and kind of
putting their ideas into practice we
wanted the audience to be able to see
you know if you take these ideas
seriously and if you put them into
practice this is where it leads we
wanted it to kind of build and build and
build and get weirder and weirder as the
movie goes on so that by by the end of
it you you can you can see that like
this this leads to some pretty dark
places oh it does it's disturbing on a
number of fronts but the way you do it
is so entertaining and funny let let's
hear now from one of these so-called
anti-racist Educators who is troubled by
her own four-year-old liking White
Disney Princesses uh princesses she she
sees that as a failing but then she will
also saw an issue with your
three-year-old daughter wanting to dress
up like a Polynesian princess my
daughter is four years old I am an
anti-racist educator quote unquote she's
still watching Disney movies and she is
choosing a white princess over
princesses of color have you talked her
about that all the time my
three-year-old daughter is very her
favorite princess is Moana love it it's
a good sign yeah but then I also thought
you know there a a little bit of
cultural appropriation here she wants to
be Moana for Halloween mhm so how do we
navigate
that do I go and and and buy the Pacific
Islander native attire for my white
three-year-old um I wouldn't I wouldn't
Matt were you shocked to learn that your
three-year-old daughter is inherently
racist uh I was I was very troubled and
you know I got to tell you it's even
worse than it sounds In that clip
because earlier in that in the same
conversation uh I I talked to her about
my my I have six-month-old twins they
were six months old at the time when we
were filming it and I said you know do
do I need to when do I need to start
talking to the the babies about their
racism and she told me that you know you
need to start talking to them now like
before they can talk um so and the thing
is you listen to these ideas and it
sounds crazy it is crazy uh we laugh at
it and we should laugh at it because
it's totally absurd but it's also you
know it's also quite quite dangerous um
and and especially when you consider
that you know maybe to you and me we
hear a three-year-old is racist for
liking Moana and we kind of recognize it
as inherently absurd but there are a lot
of people who who who don't recognize it
as absurd and they fall into this and
they're brainwashed by it um and that's
another thing that we try to bring out
in the
film oh absolutely and you see that
right now with Halloween a couple of
days away the way people are twisting
themselves into knots trying to figure
out what's offensive and uh being
offended on behalf of others often uh
now tell me about working as a waiter
undercover at a dinner hosted by two of
the worst grifters in this space Regina
Jackson and Sara Rayo they charge silly
white women enormous amounts of money to
basically abuse them over a
meal there was a miserable experience
and really the the the hatred of
yourselves and each other is like the
most the not seeing your power the being
afraid like all you do is talk about
each other talk about yourself oh my God
I'm so that's all they do I'm telling
you these white
women but it's it's that's it it's I'm
so fat I'm so stupid I'm blah blah blah
my
sorry your kids are watching
you the self love among white liberal
affluent women tell me about this
because it's a phenomenon that's uh
evident here in Australia I believe it's
evident in parts of Europe and certainly
in America where they are leaning
overwhelmingly left and they seem to
have some very strange ideas about uh uh
things that should feel great guilt over
even if they've committed no
sin yeah it's uh I mean it's an epidemic
and uh right now in America we have our
first Dei presidential candidate kamla
Harris who's sort of trying to ride this
uh this kind of confusion and guilt into
the White House and we'll see if it
works or if it doesn't but I mean the
fact is that what what you saw in the
clip there called race to dinner it's
it's a real thing everything in the
movie is real and um and and there's
there's a there's a reason why grifters
like Cyra Ralph uh are able to make a
living a pretty good living I mean I
mean they these these women these white
women pay thousands of dollars to sit
around a dinner table for two hours and
have these other two women call them
racist and you know I I was in the room
as you could see I had to I had to come
as a waiter because I wasn't invited to
the table because I'm not a woman but um
but I I saw this kind of brainwashing
session firsthand and it is it's brutal
I mean it's ruthless these women were
getting torn down uh and just
eviscerated torn apart um and convinced
that they were they were racist
meanwhile you know I'm I'm listening to
it and the women at the table they
obviously have lots of issues that they
need to work through but none of them
are racists that's they don't have to
worry about being racist they're
definitely not racist uh but they're
convinced that they are and then they
kind of are told that they have to go to
these these Dei grifters who are sort of
the the high priestesses of the Dei cult
uh for absolution you know it's so it
becomes this almost religious like
cult now the highlight of the film for
many viewers was your masterful
dismantling of the queen of critical
race Theory Dei Queen herself Robin
D'Angelo the author of white
fragility and you managed to get her to
pay reparations to your Black producer
what do you say to those who say um you
engaged in dishonest methods to to
expose Someone Like
dangelo You embarrassed her are you
guilty of punching down matt
no I don't think so at all listen uh you
know this movie has drawn comparisons to
Borat and and I and I think that I mean
there are some comparisons there and I'm
flattered by the comparison because
borat's a hilarious film but in movies
like that and in other other occasions
where Hollywood films have taken a
similar approach they often times they
really do punch down I mean they're they
are embarrassing normal Americans or
just living their lives in our case we
are looking to expose um people who are
you know make thousands of dollars off
this or millions they sell books they
have phds they you know they consult
with uh Fortune 500 companies um and uh
and those are the people were're looking
to expose and and the thing is you know
it's really there were no dishonest
methods because the only method really
was and you'll see it if you watch the
whole movie and you watch that whole
scene the only method is just me giving
her the opportunity to live according to
her own principles and we didn't force
her to do anything she does ultimately
pay reparations spoiler alert but uh we
didn't force her to do it she she could
have just said no and refused and and
that would have been it and then she
would not have embarrassed herself she
wouldn't be embarrassed in the scene so
if Robin D'Angelo walks away from that
feeling embarrassed and I think now she
does she's you know she's she has
deleted all of her social media accounts
and everything she seems to be
embarrassed but um she did that to
herself uh we didn't do that I'm afraid
to
say and you're right this isn't punching
down in any sense of the word because
these are very powerful influential
people not just becoming rich out of the
this uh di grift uh you may call it but
um just having enormous influence on the
working lives of everyday people uh
D'Angelo for example does all sorts of
training with top corporations teaching
them some of this philosophy a and then
those employees are obliged to at least
pretend to practice that in their
working
lives yeah that's that's that's exactly
right we we ask her also uh in the film
you know who does who has she worked
with and she starts listing off uh big
you know big corporations and the
interesting thing too in the film is
that you could see her turn to off
camera to one of our producers and say
well well should I say this out loud she
was actually a little bit she was unsure
of whether she should reveal that detail
or not but the fact is that these people
have a a lot of power um they have you
know when you've got uh HR companies at
the biggest corporations in the world uh
treating your
ideology as gospel and forcing employees
to affirm it well that's that's you know
when it comes to cultural power it
doesn't get more powerful than that and
that's exactly what we're uh trying to
trying to
expose now I've got to ask you one
question about the election race is
becoming a big issue the Democrats are
determined to make it a big issue will
it play a part in determining who is the
next president of the United States
uh I don't I don't know you know I I
it's it's hard for me to every time I've
tried to make a political prediction
I've always been wrong so I'm I'm trying
to uh show some restraint and not
predict anything I think that you know
there are a lot of signs to me that are
very positive for Trump right now and
even on the race issue um I think a lot
of the polls are showing that the
attempts by the Kamala campaign to Jin
up uh racial resentment and all that has
kind of backfired and she's seems to be
losing support especially among uh black
men in particular um and that's that's
that's not a surprise uh and and uh uh
and you know but she's trying to use not
just the racial grievances but also the
gender grievances this is a this is a
whole campaign um built on basically
left-wing
victimology uh and she's going to try to
ride it all the way into the white house
uh there but there are a lot of I think
very positive signs right now that the
strategy is not working uh for her as
well as she thought but you know we'll
see in a few
days now just finally uh this is a trend
that I've noticed and I'm sure you've
noticed too that the demand for racism
in America seems to outweigh the supply
which might explain the racist hoaxes we
have seen the hate crime hoaxes from the
uh basic racist graffiti hoaxes to the
more uh complicated uh Jesse Smet
production that we had but the media is
always so eager to swallow up and blow
up any allegation of racism and I want
to just have a look at one case that you
uh featured in your film the popular
kids amusement park apologized after a
video went viral that appeared to show a
costume character snubbing two black
girls okay you see the character coming
high-fiving everybody as it goes down
the street get to those two little girls
and appears to just flat out say no and
you see the little girls in their faces
and who is Rosita who's in that costume
think that person needs to be you know
held accountable fired and held to
account absolutely well before you fire
them teach them why they're being fired
and then let them go and then let them
oh you can always rely on the ladies of
the view to be completely unhinged about
everything uh just last month the case
concluded uh Sesame Street uh one the 25
million law suit was uh fa has failed
but Matt why is there this eagerness in
the media amongst the activist class to
to push any claim of racism no matter
how fan of all and that JY Smet one that
was so absurd on the face of it and yet
everyone from Camala Harris down
believed
it yeah I think it's because uh when
you've got a lot of racial resentment
and racial guilt and suspicion and all
of that in society um uh people are much
it's much easier to manipulate and
control people it's it's it's a tool
that people in power um the cultural
forces you know in our society use to
control and manipulate um and uh and
that's why they want to that's why they
always want to like find more reasons to
accuse people of racism they need to
convince people either that they are
racist or that they're the victims of
racism which is also why they tell you
that and we hear this in the film too
that hey if you you know if you say that
you're not racist as a white person if
you claim you're not racist and that's
that's just all the more evidence that
actually you are so it becomes this
unfalsifiable claim um and the people
that are turning it into an
unfalsifiable claim you know it's their
motivation I think it's pretty clear
they they stand to make a lot of money
off of it and there's a lot of power and
influence um from it for them as
well absolutely you've just done such
exceptional work you exposed the
excesses of the trans movement with what
is a woman uh am I races the race baers
have been exposed we need you now to
focus on some sort of a climate change
movie Matt please we need that uh in the
culture uh is that what you're working
on next do you have a next project
already
underway I I have a a couple of ideas
that I'm pretty excited about but I
couldn't I I it's it's got to be it's
got to be in the vault it's a it's a
it's a secret for you know a while now
before anyone hears anything about
it we really appreciate your time
tonight Matt Walsh you've been very
generous thank you so
much thank you