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thank you
people are arriving in Boston from all
over to attend what's expected to be the
largest satanic gathering in history
it's about supporting
human rights it's about supporting
women's bodily autonomy it's about
freedom of religion freedom from
religion the Bible is the world's most
loved and at the same time the world's
most hated book it's loved because it
tells us how to find everlasting life
and it's hated because it tells us that
certain things are wrong like murder and
rape and adultery and lying and stealing
of their speech and destroy their
symbols of Oppression
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thank you
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most don't believe in Satan not a
literal Satan we don't worship anything
God or devil we don't believe they exist
oh yeah
so what we were doing is trying to
destroy the symbols of the things that
cause harm that oppress us whether that
is people's Theocratic views I'm trying
to instill Theocratic role in a supposed
secular society whether that is the
Supreme Court utilizing their powers to
decimate our rights give power to those
who are further taking our rights away
from us
thank you
Satan to me is a very powerful symbol of
rebellion and anti-authoritarianism and
you know that's kind of what it is to me
obviously everyone is here for their own
reasons
many years ago I did an interview with a
representative from the First Church of
Satan here in Los Angeles I'm sure
you'll find this interesting
Jack it's good to have you with us
appreciate you coming and talking about
the Church of Satan can you give us some
background on the church
sort of like the Church of Satan was
founded in 1966 by Anton Zander levay
who was in kind of an interesting San
Francisco character he had an interest
in the occult he had been
an Oregon player for different carnivals
and circuses around the country and um
he started a group called The Magic
Circle which was a group of people that
were kind of interested in the occult
and just had similar philosophical
interests and eventually in 1969 he
wrote the Satanic Bible and it's been
continuously in print since then
and uh
how big is the Satanic Bible
um it's very short it is yeah you can
read it you can sit down and read it in
an evening so what would be the message
if you could summarize the message of
the Satanic Bible what do you think it
says enjoy life in the here and now well
that's nothing new I mean it's certainly
and it's building that out and it's
building up philosophy out of living in
the here and now and
living kind of
as animals would live obviously more
sophisticated but living
taking the carnal very seriously so what
what would annoy the average Satanist
about the average Christian obviously a
Christian who preached to us we would
find that you know annoying because we
more or less just want to be left alone
and go about our business and follow our
own interest Jack what are the benefits
to uh being a member of the Church of
Satan
well essentially there are none
um as far if you if you want to be a
member it's it's almost
um
it's a it's a conscious Act of kind of
throwing your lot in with the devil you
know being taking up that archetype and
saying this is who I am Satan represents
the powers of force in nature and we
feel that a cleansing of the idiot
ideology of the palad incompetent Christ
is in order and so this is something
that the Church of Satan is conducting
on many different Avenues we're doing
this through the use of
what we have called aesthetic terrorism
this involves the creative use of Art
music writing effectively what we call
propaganda the dissemination of
information to influence what we call
iron youth understand Marilyn Manson
joined the church
how did that uh affected
well well um Marilyn Manson is uh you
know very creative public figure
um but uh you know he's also attracted a
lot of young kids to to the church and
who a lot of young kids who are not
necessarily satanists so um you know
while we respect him and the things that
he does
some of the people that he attracts are
not necessarily satanists and we find we
kind of have to just go through them and
does that mean they're not doubting
enough they come in yeah if they're not
doubting enough no
um they're more interested in shocking
their parents you know they want to put
on the makeup like he does you know he
has some really cool makeup and so they
copy it and you know he has some
interesting reasons why he does certain
things you really think Nana Mansions
makeup is cool would you wear it
I I think when I was younger I might
have really yeah yeah I mean uh that you
have matured you know it's he has he has
a creative look and you know it's kind
of his own thing I mean he's cobbled
together a lot of different interesting
images and worked with him so Satan is
something that we tap in is a part of
ourselves that we tap into so
um you know when we say hail Satan to a
certain extent I'm saying hail me
um so it is you're on the throne yeah so
it's the self-church certainly but that
would not hold the the shock value the
Church of Satan holds well certainly and
you know the the people who want to
follow want to be accepted who seek
acceptance of other people
um you know who just want to be the good
guy are never going to join the Church
of Satan we want people who are not
interested in what other people think so
by saying that you're a Satanist you've
already crossed out so much of the
population this young lady was deeply
into the Demonic realm she's what's
commonly called an unbeliever and so as
the scriptures say Satan had blinded her
mind as you can see she has death
written all over her watch what happens
when she's confronted with the gospel
do you know what an idiom is an idiom
I'm gonna give you one and I want you to
try and explain it to me firstly I'll
ask you if you've ever used it and then
explain what it means okay
if I said you
well I'll be damned
what does that mean
like you ever used it yes I have give me
a context and what you'd use it I've
used it in a sense where I've said well
I'll be damned if I don't get that trick
have you ever used it uh yeah in like
situations where I don't I'm not
expecting an outcome I'll be like well
I'll be damned yeah that's a surprise
I'm surprised what does it mean to be
damned
to be like cursed earlier why would you
say that as an idiom I mean I I've tried
to research it and I can't figure it out
why people would say well I'll be damned
it's the same way that people say uh
like holy and then you know yeah like
people don't really take into
consideration what they're saying they
just kind of say it like well I'll be
damned and then you really take a step
back and realize what you're saying and
you're like wait I just cursed myself
basically here's another one
it sure as hell I'll be there what does
that mean
would you think Hal is sure
sure as hell
you know that's a strange thing to say
it's a very strange thing I'm pretty
sure hell isn't sure do you believe in
God's existence uh not my not everyone's
idea of God like the biblical but I do
believe in God in the sense that the
Universe the higher power my Spirit
guides my angels yeah and do you believe
in God's existence um I believe that the
Universe definitely has a force that
works in mysterious ways and definitely
comes in like Karma and stuff like that
just everything happens for a reason and
what you reap yourself you do rotten
Things Rotten things will come back to
you yeah it's just a kind of a law of
life let's say you hack someone or you
know you the malojo like jealousy that
creates bad energy
um threefold rule it usually comes back
to you whatever like you said you reap
what you sow
are you into spiritism yes
is that demons no not whatsoever that's
not in my practice familiar spirits yes
it's my Spirit guides who are usually my
ancestors and my angels are for example
my brother who passed away as one of my
angels my grandma that passed away is
one of my angels yeah do you know what
familiar spirit means uh not necessarily
if you could explain that to me yeah the
Bible says it's actually demons demons
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uh well personally I've had experience
with both negative and positive energy
uh kind of paranormal things so I can
differentiate what is evil and what's
not and you know
you can feel it you can sense it you
know how the Bible describes Satan is
called an angel of Light
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and yet he's the epitome of evil yeah do
you know what he does according to the
New Testament he blinds the minds of
people to the gospel did you know that
no I did it
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are you familiar with the gospel no let
me share it with you and get your
thoughts in a minute are you familiar
with the gospel okay do you think you're
a good person yes I know I'm a good
person you think you're a good person
yeah I think so yeah what standard are
you a judge by because everybody thinks
they're good I mean a man who rapes a
woman would say I think I'm good I just
felt like it she deserved it um if you
move with ill intentions you know and
everyone knows right from wrong and I do
know that everything that I do is filled
with love and positivity okay I'm
putting that to the test can you handle
that I think so can you be honest with
me yeah how many lies have you told in
your life uh I can't count how many lies
but I do know that I have lied before in
my life so what do you call someone who
tells lies uh
uh
dishonest a liar yeah a liar have you
lied definitely have you stolen
definitely yes I have have you ever used
God's name in vain
um
probably what about you definitely have
yeah would you use your mother's name as
a cuss word no why not because it's my
mother and I have the utmost respect for
my mother that's right you never do that
and you've taken the Holy Name Of God a
name that Godly Jews won't even speak
it's so holy and brought it down to the
level of a filth word to express disgust
which is called blasphemy so serious
it's punishable by death just don't
think you're a good person yes
now Jesus said if you look with lust you
commit adultery in the heart have you
ever looked with lust
I think yeah
and what about you yes use God's name in
vain yeah have you had sex before
marriage uh yes yes
okay ladies I'm not judging you this is
for you not for me okay you've both told
me you're lying thieving Blasphemous
fornicating adulterers at heart
and you just put it like that it sounds
very negative but I think that we're all
you human and we make mistakes the same
way that I don't know we can rewrite our
wrongs and you can how do you rewrite
how do you rewrite lust
um well lust is a normal thing and
having sex before marriage I think is
totally human and so has blasphemy and
lying and stealing it's all human It
comes naturally to us now I'm going to
ask you another question
on Judgment Day if God judges You by The
Ten Commandments we've looked at four of
them
would you be innocent or guilty I'm not
sure because I don't know all these all
of them so but I think that I'm deemed a
good person and I know I'm very secure
within myself and who I am that no Bible
or no person's opinion is gonna change
how I feel I'm gonna give it something
that might change how you feel Jen if
God judges You by The Ten Commandments
would you be innocent or guilty probably
be guilty a few of them yeah Heaven or
Hell
hopefully I haven't but
where I go where I go I end up you've
got God's promise you'll be damned
that's what the Bible says and here's
the thing that will change your mind if
you look at the word good in the
dictionary there are over 40 different
definitions
number one is moral Excellence absolute
moral perfection none of us are good in
that respect we're good by human
standards that's the difference of
course you're a good person and by human
standards but not by God so you'll be
damned too which horrifies me
this means death
yeah Mort means death
mortgage means death grip did you know
that when someone gets a mortgage for a
house it's a death so mortar means death
yes it does do you know what death is
according to the Bible uh no because I'm
not a Bible reader like I said it's
wages
I heard the Bible verse the wages of sin
is death uh no I have not yeah death is
payment God gives you for sin it's like
a judge would look at a criminal that's
rape three girls and murder them and
said you've earned the death sentence
this is what's due to you this is your
wages and sin is so serious to God
he's given us capital punishment so
ladies I'd be horrified at the thought
of both you being damned God giving you
justice so here's a big question what
did God do for guilty sinners so we
wouldn't have to go to hell do you know
I do not know but again I don't believe
in that concept of God I don't believe
in the biblical God
foreign
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myself I know that a God that loves us
wouldn't damn us because of human
mistakes and yes we all make different
mistakes we're all at a different degree
but my idea of God is Not that I'm going
to be damned just the same way that
people tell me I'm going to be damned
for being gay uh yeah let me come back
to a minute don't let me forget let me
just ask Jim would you be concerned if
God gave you justice and you ended up
damned in hell does that concern you do
you love your life well I do love my
life but I wouldn't be too concerned I
don't think there's a habanero if I die
my spirit's going somewhere but I don't
think it's this prescription Notions of
horrifies me at the thought of you being
damned so let's get back to what you
just said what you just did Sam is
violated the first of the Ten
Commandments I did that before I was a
christianist will you make up a God to
suit yourself
you create a god you feel comfortable
with no idea that's right I did it
before I was a Christian what did God do
for guilty Sinners so he wouldn't have
to be damned so we wouldn't have to go
to hell no so let me tell you get your
thoughts on her okay and then I'll let
you go okay and appreciate your patience
Sam Jesus suffered and died on the cross
to take the punishment for the sin of
the world I see you nodding so you know
that
you and I broke God's law The Ten
Commandments Jesus came and paid the
fine that's what happened on that cross
that's why he said it is finished just
before he died in other words the debt
has been paid Sam if you're in court and
someone pays you fine a judge can
legally let you go he can say sam
there's a stack of speeding fines here
this is deadly serious but someone's
paid him they're free to go and you can
do that which is legal or right and just
well God can legally let you live
forever he can take the death sentence
off you because Jesus Paid the fine and
full so you could go free does that make
sense it makes complete sense but uh
still doesn't hey that's just you still
listen and I appreciate that then Jesus
rose from the dead defeated the greatest
enemy all we all have death itself and
if you'll simply repent of your sins let
them go turn from them and trust in
Jesus like a trust a parachute God
promises he'll Grant you everlasting
life he'll take death off you because
he's Rich you feel but uh I don't
believe in your concept of God and Jesus
I know that still gonna keep saying that
because I'm not gonna repent for my sins
and the idea that you think you're going
to think about what we talked about
um probably for five minutes and then go
on about my day okay please do because
my motive is because I care about you
I'm not trying to convert you I don't
want to notch in my belt I just want you
to think about your eternity because
this is your precious life we're talking
about and same with you Sam your life is
so precious
so I'm just telling you hey you can keep
it
um he that saves his life or lose it he
that loses his life and my sake Jesus
said we'll keep it and that's what God's
offering you everlasting life is a free
gift and so I just want you to perhaps
give some thought to this maybe as you
lay your head on your pillow tonight and
hear your heart beat in your ear and
think of the fragility of life
just think about what we talked about
that's all I'm asking will you do that
for me yeah
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