GET UNDERWAY.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> WELL, PRESIDENT BIDEN FACING
INCREASING PRESSURE WITHIN HIS
OWN PARTY TO WITHDRAW FROM THE
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
FOR MORE ON THIS DEMOCRATIC
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MARIANNE
WILLIAMSON JOINING US IN
STUDIO.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
OBVIOUSLY, MORE THAN 24 MILLION
PEOPLE TUNED INTO THE N.A.T.O.
PRESS CONFERENCE.
NOW, N.A.T.O. PRESS CONFERENCES
USUALLY DON’T GET 24 MILLION
VIEWS, YOU AMONG THEM.
OF COURSE, WE SAW A VERY FIERY
PRESIDENT BIDEN LAST NIGHT
SAYING HE’S NOT GETTING OUT.
FIRST, LET’S START WITH HOW YOU
SEE THE RACE AND THE
PRESIDENT’S CONDITION AS YOU
WATCH HIM.
CERTAINLY IT’S NOT GOOD FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT INTERNAL
TURMOIL IS THE MAIN PHRASE USED
TO DESCRIBE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT
NOW.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, AS YOU
WERE JUST SHOWING ON YOUR
PROGRAM, IS FILLED WITH ENERGY,
EXCITEMENT, WE ARE GOING TO
WIN.
AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS
GOING THROUGH THIS AWFUL FAMILY
DRAMA THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
HANDLED WITHIN A WEEK AT THE
MOST.
SO THE FAILURE HERE WAS NOT
JUST THE PRESIDENT’S FAILURE.
GRIFF: AFTER THE DEBATE.
NOT JUST THE DEBATE, BUT THE
FAILURE AT CRISIS MANAGEMENT.
THIS THING NEEDS TO BE HANDLED
AND HANDLED NOW.
BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO
TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT HOW WE GOT
HERE.
WE GOT HERE BECAUSE A VITAL,
ROBUST DEMOCRATIC PROCESS WAS
SUPPRESSED OVER THE LAST YEAR
AND A HALF.
THERE’S AN ELITE, AN ELITE
WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
NOT THAT THE REPUBLICANS DON’T
HAVE IT, BUT THE DEMOCRATIC
ELITE JOINED WITH THEIR MEDIA
PARTNERS, FELT THAT THEY WERE
ENTITLED TO CHOOSE JOE.
THIS WAS THE BRO JOE PROTECTION
PROGRAM.
IF WE HAD ALLOWED--
IF WE HAD ALLOWED A REAL
CONVERSATION, THE CREATIVE
MESSINESS, YES, CHAOTIC
MESSINESS THAT’S DEMOCRACY
ITSELF OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A
HALF WHETHER WHEN IT WAS BOBBY
KENNEDY WAS THERE, DEAN
PHILLIPS, MYSELF.
WE WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING
THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF WHAT
MAKES THE DEMOCRATS THE RIGHT
PEOPLE TO TAKE IT FROM HERE.
INSTEAD, THAT WAS SUPPRESSED.
AND THAT ELITE LISTEN TODAY WHO
THEY SHOULD HAVE LAUGHED AT AND
LAUGHED AT WHO THEY SHOULD HAVE
LISTENED TO.
GRIFF: WERE THEY NOT BEING
HONEST, ABOUT THE CONDITION OF
PRESIDENT BIDEN?
>> IT KNOW THE ABOUT WHETHER
THEY WERE BEING HONEST.
WHAT WAS PROBLEMATIC, THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE NEVER GOT TO
SEE IT.
IF THE PRESIDENT HAD HAD TO
ACTUALLY CAMPAIGN IN IN
PRIMARY.
YOU KNOW, THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID
THE ONLY SAFE REPOSITORY FOR
POWER IS IN THE HANDS OF THE
PEOPLE.
NOW, I’M NOT MENTIONING THIS
BECAUSE I’M GOING BACK.
IT’S BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THESE
PEOPLE THAT FELT THAT THEY HAD
THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE, THAT IT
WAS JOE, NEED TO GET OFF THEIR
HIGH HORSES.
IT’S THEIR ARROGANCE AND SENSE
OF ENTITLEMENT THAT PUT US
WHERE WE ARE.
THEY NEED TO NOT BELIEVE
THEY’RE ENTITLED NOW TO DECIDE
WE’RE GOING TO KAMALA OR WITH
GAVIN.
THE MISTAKE MADE BEFORE MUST BE
CORRECTED NOW AND MUST BE
OPENED UP.
WE NEED TO HAVE A BLITZ
PRIMARY, AN OPEN CONVENTION,
WHICH WE HAD FOR 200 YEARS AND
WORKED FINE.
GRIFF: I WANT TO THAT POINT.
AND THIS IS SENATOR CLYBURN.
>> I WAS THERE AND I KNOW IT.
GRIFF: HERE HE IS TALKING ABOUT
IT.
>> THE CONVERSATION SHOULD
FOCUS ON THE RECORD OF THIS
ADMINISTRATION, ON THE
ALTERNATIVE TO HIS ELECTION,
AND LET JOE BIDEN CONTINUE TO
MAKE HIS OWN DECISIONS ABOUT
IT.
HE’S EARNED THAT RIGHT AND I’M
GOING TO GIVE HIM THAT MUCH
RESPECT.
IF HE DECIDES TO CHANGE HIS
MIND LATER ON THEN WE WILL
RESPOND TO THAT.
WE HAVE UNTIL THE 19TH 6 AUGUST
TO OPEN OUR CONVENTION.
GRIFF: SO YOU WANT AN OPEN
CONVENTION.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WHAT ARE WE
DOING HERE?
ARE WE PROTECTING JOE BIDEN’S
FEELINGS OR ARE WE PROTECTING
AMERICAN DEMOCRACY?
THIS IS -- THE CONVERSATION
THAT YOU JUST SHOWED WITH
REPRESENTATIVE CLYBURN, WHY IS
THIS GROUP -- AND THEY PURPORT
TO BE THE REAL GROWN-UPS IN THE
ROOM.
WE NEED TO ALLOW THE GROWN-UPS
COME IN.
THE REAL GROWNUPS IN DEMOCRACY
IS WHOEVER THE VOTERS DECIDE.
AND I’M ON THE BALLOT, KAMALA,
DEAN, WHOM EVER, LET’S GET OUT
THERE AND TALK TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND DO OVER THE NEXT TWO
MONTHS WE WERE REALLY NOT
ALLOWED TO DO THE LAST NEAR AND
A HALF.
GRIFF: YOU TALK ABOUT THE
VOTERS AND OP-ED, THE EDITORIAL
PAGE OF "THE WASHINGTON POST"
WRITES THIS, AND CITING A
WASHINGTON POST POLL, 85% OF
AMERICANS NOW SAY THAT BIDEN IS
TOO OLD TO SERVE FOUR MORE
YEARS AS PRESIDENT, ACCORDING
TO A POST ABC NEWS IPSO POLL.
57% OF DEMOCRATS SAY HE SHOULD
END HIS CANDIDACY.
SO, I ASK YOU THIS, AND IT
CONTINUES, BUT I WANT TO GIVE
YOU THE QUESTION BEFORE WE RUN
OUT OF TIME.
IS PRESIDENT BIDEN FIT TO
CONTINUE TO SERVE FOUR MORE
MONTHS?
>> YES, I BELIEVE HE IS,
ACTUALLY.
I BELIEVE HE IS FIT TO SERVE
ANOTHER FOUR MONTHS.
I DO BELIEVE THAT, BUT THAT’S
VERY DIFFERENT THAN CAN HE DO
THAT AND MOUNT THE KIND OF
SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN THAT WE
NEED, PARTICULARLY WITH THIS
SCUTTLEBUTT.
WE HAVE TO PUT THIS DRAMA TO
REST.
IF WE WANT TO WIN IN NOVEMBER,
WE MUST PUT THIS DRAMA TO REST
AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS
FOR, AND I HOPE IT’S HAPPENING
THIS WEEKEND, ENOUGH PEOPLE
WHOSE VOICES WOULD MATTER TO
THE PRESIDENT WOULD BE SITTING
DOWN WITH HIM AND SAYING THIS
MUST STOP AND IT MUST STOP NOW.
GRIFF: THE LAST QUESTION.
10 SECONDS.
COULD YOU SUPPORT HARRIS AT THE
TOP OF THE TICKET?
>> IF THE PEOPLE CHOOSE HER, IF
THE VOTERS CHOOSE HER.
IF A SMALL GROUP OF ELITE
MANIPULATE AND ENGINEER AND DO
THEIR SHENANIGANS WITH THE
DELEGATES, WOULD I SPEAK MY
MIND.
I BELIEVE IN THE TENETS OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND BELIEVE
IT’S SO IMPORTANT THAT THE MAN
WHO SAYS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS
A HOAX NOT RETURN TO THE WHITE
HOUSE, THAT THE MAN WHO TOLD
MARK ESPER, COULDN’T WE SHOOT
THE PROTESTERS IN THE FEET NOT
BE RETURNED TO THE WHITE HOUSE,
THE MAN WHO MADE SURE ROE V.
WADE WAS OVERTURNED NOT RETURN
TO THE WHITE HOUSE, WE’VE GOT