THEY FELT AS THOUGH THEY HAD NO
CHOICE.
IF YOU LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA.
1 ELECTORAL VOTES.
THE EARLY VOTE SO FAR GOT
1.4 MILLION GOING IN, PLUS.
BUT, 58% HAVE BEEN DEMOCRAT, 32%
HAVE BEEN REPUBLICAN.
SO, THAT’S A SIGNIFICANT
ADVANTAGE.
>> Steve: RIGHT.
HERE’S THE THING.
POLITICO HAS GOT A GREAT
ANALYSIS OF THE EARLY VOTING
ACROSS THE BATTLEGROUND STATES.
AND IT IS SHOCKING SOME
POLLSTERS BECAUSE WOMEN ARE --
WOMEN ARE OUTPACING MEN IN
BATTLEGROUND STATES BY 10
POINTS.
55 TO 45.
THE IMPLICATIONS ARE UNCLEAR AND
YOU DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHO THEY
ARE VOTING FOR BUT WE DO KNOW
YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS
WOMEN SEEM TO FAVOR KAMALA
HARRIS.
AND THAT EXPLAINS APPARENTLY
WHAT THEY THINK IS HER PATH TO
WINNING NEXT TUESDAY BECAUSE SHE
LEADS IN THE SUBURBS AS WELL.
BRAND NEW "WALL STREET JOURNAL"
POLL SHE IS UP BY 7.
UP BY 6 IN BRAND NEW IPSOS POLL
REGARDING THE SUBURBS.
IF THOSE HOLD, THOSE SUBURBAN
VOTERS WOULD BE ENOUGH TO OFFSET
HER GIANT LOSSES IN THE BLACK
AND LATINO COMMUNITIES HER PATH
TO VICTORY IS THROUGH THE
SUBURBS, THEY SAY.
>> Ainsley: I’M CURIOUS WHEN YOU
TALK TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE
IN THE DINER.
DO THEY LIVE IN THE SUBURBS OR
ARE THEY IN THE BIG CITIES?
WHERE DO THEY LIVE AND WHAT ARE
THEIR OPINIONS?
>> Lawrence: LET’S GO TALK TO
THEM.
LET’S TALE TALK WITH SOME FOLKS.
LEFT OFF.
HOW ARE YOU DOING, MA’AM?
YOU ARE ON "FOX & FRIENDS" RIGHT
NOW.
WHAT’S YOUR NAME?
>> CHRISTINA.
>> Lawrence: I’M CURIOUS,
CHRISTINA.
DID YOU HEAR THE CURRENT
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
CALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS GARBAGE
YESTERDAY?
>> I DID, YES.
>> Lawrence: WHAT IS YOUR
THOUGHT PROCESS ON THIS.
>> IT FEELS VERY DEMEANING.
I HAVE BEEN A REPUBLICAN MY
WHOLE LIFE AND IT’S A PRIVILEGE
TO BE A REPUBLICAN AND A
CONSERVATIVE AND I STAND FOR
CONSERVATIVE VALUES, AND I THINK
I CAN PROCESS THOUGHTS AND HAVE
MY OWN THOUGHT PATTERN AND TO BE
CALLED GARBAGE FOR THOSE
THOUGHTS IS NOT NECESSARILY AN
UPLIFTING --
>> Lawrence: WERE YOU SURPRISED?
>> NO.
NOT AT ALL.
NOT COMING FROM HIM OR HIS
PARTY.
>> Lawrence: THANK YOU SO MUCH,
MA’AM.
>> YOU BET.
>> Lawrence: AS I TOLD YOU ALL
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, PEOPLE
WERE TELLING ME THIS HAPPENED
BUT THEY WERE NOT SURPRISED.
LET’S TALK WITH SOME OTHER
FOLKS.
SIR, WHAT’S YOUR NAME?
>> ADAM.
>> Lawrence: YOU GUYS HAVE A
TIGHT RACE HERE.
I’M SURE YOU HEARD THE CURRENT
PRESIDENT TALK ABOUT TRUMP
SUPPORTERS BEING GARBAGE.
HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT YOU?
>> I MEAN, JUST SHOWS THE
DEMOCRATS AND HARRIS’
DESPERATION.
I THINK THEY ARE DESPERATE.
THEY SEE THE NUNS.
THEY SEE THE PEOPLE.
ALL THE ENTHUSIASM BEHIND, YOU
KNOW, DONALD TRUMP AND THE
REPUBLICANS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS LIKE HILLARY
CLINTON CALLING US DEPLORABLES.
>> Lawrence: THIS IS JUST PART
2, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> Lawrence: THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE.
IT IS TIGHT HERE IN
PENNSYLVANIA.
81,000 VOTES SEPARATED 2020.
DONALD TRUMP WON IT IN 2016 AND
IN 2020 JOE BIDEN WON IT BY
21,000 VOTES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE
THE ISSUE OF THAT BRINGS THE
MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS TO THE
POLLS?
>> THE ECONOMY.
>> Lawrence: WHY THE ECONOMY?
>> EVERYBODY IS STRUGGLING.
I MEAN, FOOD, FOOD FOR ONE
THING.
I MEAN, LET’S TRY TO GET PRICES
DOWN ON THINGS.
HOUSING.
HOUSING IS OUT OF CONTROL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR, YOU WERE
FIRED UP THE MOMENT I SAW YOU
THIS MORNING.
>> YEAH.
>> Lawrence: WHAT’S YOUR NAME?
>> TAMARA.
>>
>> Lawrence: I’M CURIOUS, WITH
P.A. BEING SO CLOSE.
WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO
WIN?
>> I REALLY THINK THAT TRUMP
WILL WIN JUST BECAUSE THE
ECONOMY IS SO BAD FOR PEOPLE AND
THE TYPICAL STATE COUNTIES LIKE
PITTSBURGH, PHILADELPHIA, THOSE
PEOPLE ARE WORKING PEOPLE AND
THEY’RE REALLY FEELING THE
CRUNCH.
SO I THINK THAT MAKES A
DIFFERENCE.
>> Lawrence: Y’ALL VOTED FOR
DONALD TRUMP IN 2016.
2020 Y’ALL WENT BACK TO JOE BUT
ONLY BY 81,000.
>> YEAH.
>> Lawrence: WHY IS THIS TIME
DIFFERENT?
>> I THINK WE HAVE HAD FOUR
YEARS OF FAILURE AND PEOPLE ARE
TIRED OF IT.
THEY REALLY FELT THAT FAILURE AT
THE GROCERY STORE AND THEIR OWN
FAMILIES.
EDUCATION SYSTEM IS BAD.
THE COUNTRY IS DANGEROUS.
SO THESE ARE MATTERS THAT MATTER
TO ME AS A MOM.
AND I’M TIRED OF THAT.
I’M TIRED OF THAT IT IS
PERSONAL.
>> Lawrence: THANK YOU SO MUCH,
MA’AM, I APPRECIATE YOU.
GUYS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE
TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES.
THOSE MOM AND POP STORES.
JUST BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE
GROCERY STORE.
YEAH, THEY ARE UPSET ABOUT WHAT
THE PRESIDENT SAID ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, CALLING ESSENTIALLY THIS
ENTIRE ROOM GARBAGE BUT THAT’S
NOT WHAT REALLY MATTERS.
WHAT MATTERS IS WHEN THEY GO TO
THE GROCERY STORES AND THEY
CAN’T AFFORD THINGS.
>> Steve: WELL PUT, IT’S ALL
ABOUT THE MONEY.
BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES. >> Ainsley: WE LOOK AT HOLLYWOOD
A. LISTERS COWGILL -- LAWRENCE S
WITH VOTERS IN LANCASTER WHERE
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION IS
UNDERWAY 2500 FORMS WERE FLAGGED
FOR POTENTIAL FRAUD.
>> Steve: GW LAW PROFESSOR
JONATHAN TURLEY JOINS US WITH
ANALYSIS.
JONATHAN, GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Steve: IN PAST ELECTIONS WE
HAVE HEARD ABOUT PROBLEMS AFTER
THE ELECTION.
AT LEAST THEY ARE WORKING ON
THESE THINGS NOW BEFORE THE
ELECTION.
AND SO, WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE
LIKE 2500 VERT REGISTRATION
FORMS THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG
WITH THEM.
AND SO THEY HAVE SET THEM ASIDE.
IS THIS NORMAL OR IS IT
SOMETHING BIGGER?
>> WELL, WE HAVE SEEN THIS
PATTERN BEFORE.
AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE SHOULD TAKE A MORE POSITIVE
VIEW OF THIS.
IN THAT THESE ARE BEING PICKED
UP.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING
THEIR JOB AND PULLING OUT THESE
SUSPICIOUS REGISTRATIONS WE HAVE
SEEN THIS PATTERN.
COTTAGE INDUSTRY OF REGISTERING
PEOPLE.
A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE PARTIES,
FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO REGISTER
THEY’RE REGISTERED BY OBVIOUSLY
THE NUDGE OF PEOPLE THAT THEY
CAN EFFECTIVELY HARVEST OR GET
REGISTRATIONS FROM THAT PRODUCES
RATHER NEGATIVE INCENTIVE.
PEOPLE BEGIN TO CUT CORNERS OR
ACCORDING TO SOME THESE
ACCUSATIONS JUST KNOWINGLY
CREATE INVALID REGISTRATIONS.
IT’S GOOD THAT THEY’RE PICKING
IT UP.
WE JUST DON’T KNOW THE SCOPE OF
THIS.
WE ARE SEEING THIS IN MULTIPLE
DISTRICTS.
THAT’S WHAT WE DON’T QUITE KNOW
AT THIS POINT.
>> Ainsley: JONATHAN, THEY ARE
SAYING THEY ARE LOOKING AT
OVERABUNDANCE OF VOTER
REGISTRATION FORMS I KNOW THEY
GET A LOT IN THE MAIL BUT THEY
ARE SAYING THIS IS MORE THAN
NORMAL?
>> YEAH.
PART OF THE THING.
A LOT OF STATES HAVE TRIED TO
MAKE IT EASIER TO REGISTER A LOT
OF MONEY GOING TO REGISTRATION
DRIVES THAT CAN BE A PERFECT
STORM WHEN THOSE ARE IN THE
HANDS OF THE WRONG PEOPLE.
SO, WE’RE SEEING A LOT OF THESE
FORMS THAT ARE HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS
AND POTENTIALLY CRIMINAL BUT
MANY OF THESE ARE SIMPLY
INVALID.
SO THESE OFFICIALS ARE TRYING TO
DO A CATCH-UP GAME.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON’T HAVE
A LOT OF RUNWAY HERE WHEN THESE
REGISTRATION FORMS COME IN.
THEY HAVE GOT TO SPOT THEM, PULL
THEM.
INVESTIGATE THEM.
AND WE HAVE GOT AN ELECTION
BARRELING DOWN THIS TRACK.
>> Brian: RIGHT.
SO, JONATHAN, LET’S TAKE A LOOK
AT SOME OF THE SUPREME COURT
CHALLENGES.
THEY SAY THEY KNOW THEY ARE
GOING TO PLAY A ROLE.
LET’S GET THIS GOING.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN VIRGINIA.
THEY SAID THERE WERE SOME
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ACCORDING TO
THE GOVERNOR ON THOSE ROLLS
WANTED TO CLEAN THEM UP.
THEY SAID YOU CAN’T DO THAT
WHERE DOES THAT STAND RIGHT NOW
FROM WHAT YOU SEE PLAY OUT IN
THE LOWER COURTS?
>> WELL, THE LOWER COURTS DID
NOT GO WELL FOR THE STATE OF
VIRGINIA.
WE ARE WAITING FOR THE SUPREME
COURT’S DECISION.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU I’M VERY
SYMPATHETIC WITH VIRGINIA HERE.
WHAT VIRGINIA IS SAYING QUITE
SIMPLE.
THEY ARE SAYING IT’S A KEIM.
THESE PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY WERE
NON-CITIZENS AND THEY ARE
APPEARING ON OUR VOTING ROLLS.
IT’S A CRIME TO DO THAT.
AND SO, WE HAVE WHAT I THINK IS
A VERY REASONABLE SYSTEM.
IT GETS KICKED BACK BY THE DMV
BECAUSE OF WHAT THESE PEOPLE
SAID.
AND THEN VIRGINIA SAYS CURE IT.
IF THERE IS SOME PROBLEM WITH
WHAT YOU PUT DOWN, YOU HAVE GOT
14 DAYS.
AND EVEN IF WE REJECT YOU, AFTER
14 DAYS, YOU CAN STILL VOTE WITH
A PROVISIONAL BALLOT.
NOW, FOR SOME REASON, THE
BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION
DECIDED TO GO WITH THE NUCLEAR
OPTION AND SAID WE WANT THEM
BACK ON THE VOTING ROLLS.
AND TWO LOWER COURTS AGREED WITH
THEM.
WE ARE WAITING TO SEE IF THE
SUPREME COURT WILL INTERVENE.
I THINK THERE IS GROUNDS TO
INTERVENE HERE.
BUT, WE’LL SEE.
THE SUPREME COURT IS NOT EAGER
TO INTERVENE IN ANY OF THESE
CASES.
THEY WOULD LIKE THIS CUP TO PASS
FROM THEIR LIPS.
BUT THIS IS ONE THAT MAY BE
DIFFICULT.
>> Brian: OKAY.
A FEW OTHERS THERE.
THEY AGREED NOT TO INTERVENE?
THEY HAVEN’T DECIDED YET.
>> Ainsley: GOES TO THE SUPREME
COURT NOW.
>> Brian: I THOUGHT THEY DID
DECIDE.
>> John: WE ARE WAITING FOR A
FINAL DECISION OF THE SUPREME
COURT.
I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT THEY MADE
A FINAL DECISION.
>> Steve: THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE RESPONDED YESTERDAY.
THAT’S THE LATEST.
LAWRENCE, BACK TO YOU.
>> Lawrence: JONATHAN, I’M
CURIOUS AND I HAVE HEARD FROM
SOME FOLKS HERE ALREADY WHAT IS
GOING ON WITH SOME OF THESE
VOTER LINES WITH THE VOTE OVER
THE WEEKEND THE LINES WERE LONG.
BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THESE POLL
WORKERS ARE ALLOWING ALL THE
PEOPLE TO VOTE IN MY HOME STATE.
BUT, SOME PEOPLE ARE HAVE SOME
CONCERNS ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT REPORTS
YOU’RE HEARING ON THIS?
>> Jonathan: YEAH, AND THIS IS
VERY CONCERNING BECAUSE WE
ACTUALLY HAVE FOX INTERVIEWS
WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE TURNED AWAY
AROUND 2:30 OR SO IN THE
AFTERNOON, THAT’S BEFORE THE END
OF THE PERIOD BY WHICH CAN YOU
DEMAND THESE BALLOTS.
AND SOME OF THEM WERE TOLD THEY
HAD COMPUTER PROBLEMS.
SOME SAID THEY HAD STAFFING
PROBLEMS.
AND IT’S QUITE FRUSTRATING.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KEY STATE
IN THE ELECTION.
AND WE’RE NOW HAVING STAFFING
AND COMPUTER PROBLEMS.
IT’S NOT LIKE THIS IS ROCKET
SCIENCE.
YOU KNOW, ELON MUSK JUST
CAPTURED A BOOSTER ROCKET, WHAT
WITH WHAT LOOKED LIKE A GRILLING
TONGUE.
THAT’S TOUGH.
WHAT SHOULD NOT BE TOUGH IS
GETTING OUT BALLOTS AND KEEPING
OPEN UNTIL 5:00 P.M.
>> Ainsley: MAKING US ALL WONDER
WILL WE KNOW THE RESULTS NEXT