joining me now is bestselling author
Douglas Murray Douglas let's start with
the UK riots kiss Dharma the police the
media have all been clear who they blame
for the unrest the far right they say
fueled by disinformation online there's
even suggestions of banning uh platforms
like X and cracking down further on free
speech is that the answer to what we are
seeing which are really clearly deep
underlying issues communities across uh
the country from uh well places like
Birmingham Manchester Liverpool rotheram
Middlesboro London and even as far as
Belfast in Northern
Ireland well yes this all started after
a young man 17-year-old uh stabbed to
death three girls at a Taylor Swift
fiend dance party in the town of
Southport and the sense C in the
immediate aftermath of that this is just
an observation was that the authorities
were withholding the identity of the
suspect now there are some reasons why
they might do that uh but obviously
tensions locally were extremely high
feelings were extremely high and uh the
way to try to control the information
obviously completely backfired as you
would expect it to and that's led to
these riots uh across city after City uh
in the UK it's extremely disturbing
these Riots of themselves provoked
counter riots where identifiably Muslim
young men some armed have been also
shown on camera uh attacking people in
the streets and this is really uh just a
completely appalling and I'm sorry to
say this completely predictable uh
situation indeed I can say it's
predictable because I said exactly this
sort of thing would start happening
seven years ago or so in my book The
Strange death of Europe it's horrible to
be proved right in such circumstances
because you don't want to be proved
right about something like this you want
people to listen and change their
policies but you know the last few days
have shown the labor government refusing
uh to concede that there is anything
other than what they call far-right
violence going on they claim that there
isn't a two-tier policing system in the
UK which everybody with their own eyes
can see is not the case clearly there is
a two-tier uh policing system in the UK
uh these areas where this has happened
in watmore are all areas where there
were riots in
2011 and uh as I rid in The Spectator
this week one of the interesting things
about that is that all of these areas
are among other things areas where
migration has continued to increase and
joblessness has gone up now just think
of those two factors anyone watching you
keep uh um forcing immigration onto
these areas and you do nothing to
improve the lot in these areas of course
nobody should be on the streets the the
unbelievable hooliganism and thuggery of
recent days should repel everybody but
you know very often when there is some
kind of violence or unrest we hear
political leaders and the wise heads in
the commentary at saying we need to
address underlying causes why has nobody
said that in recent
days and you're so right remember the
media coverage in
2011 uh very different to what we're
seeing now and also throughout the BLM
uh unrest that we saw not too long ago
again there was a great deal of sympathy
for those who were behaving violently
and uh uh and certainly weren't
peacefully prot testing now there are
various segments of of the left in the
UK blaming uh X formerly Twitter for
inciting violence but Douglas it's one
of the few places where you can see what
is happening on the ground without that
media
spin that's right Rita I mean I I've
just seen a report from another
so-called mainstream channel in the UK
uh where the the quite clearly um the
the the journalist are trying not to
reveal part of the story what they're
trying not to reveal is what they call
Asian men in the area intimidating and
harassing journalists well these aren't
you know once again you get back to the
endless euphemism and lying that is just
prevalent across our media these are not
you know Hong Kong residents who have
decided to go out and threaten people
they are regrettably organized Muslim
groups and you know they're being
whipped up by people presumably in their
Community but also by leftwing and other
activists obviously by the people on the
street as well uh to come out in force
now the idea that the answer to that is
the crack down on Twitter X is absolute
case study of the failure of the
political class in the UK I remember in
2017 uh when uh three Muslim men went
across London Bridge slitting people's
throats and shouting this is for Allah
and the mayor of London then then and
the then prime minister Theresa May came
out and said that this is we need to
address online
radicalization you know and then Tesa
May set up an in somebody to look into
the definition of extremism you know
what have they actually done in all of
these years absolutely nothing and it's
it'll be the same with this uh they'll
they'll lock some people up and they
will um demonize all sorts of people and
they'll cover for others but they will
do nothing to address this the British
public have been begging for years for
consecutive governments to bring down
immigration and to increase
opportunities in the UK um not only were
they not listened to they were revived
insulted and much more and you know it
also needs to be said each of the towns
in which these uh uh awful riots have
been occurring are all places that are
resonant with huge crimes that were
covered up by almost everybody in
Authority I'm thinking of the again what
are called The Grooming gangs but are
the rape gangs uh which struck in
rotheram in Rochdale in town after town
whose names are back in the news now and
obviously there's no excuse for the
rioting why does nobody in government
and a labor government at that not
listen to these people at least find out
what has gone so badly wrong in these
areas is but reports of um who carried
out this atrocity in Southport at the
dance class for children that that could
ignite a country it doesn't suggest to
me that the country is in a healthy
State no and I think trust in
institutions including the police and
media are going to plummet further after
this episode now let's talk about the
Olympic boxing Scandal involving two
males with with XY chromosomes who are
being allowed to punch on with real
women at the Paris games it hasn't
escaped your attention this week you
wrote in the New York Post about the
ioc's failures and how young women who
have worked tirelessly to reach the
Pinnacle of their sport are having their
dreams dashed and Douglas whether it's
uh by men who transition like Leah
Thomas or in the case of these two boxes
uh males with XY chromosomes who due to
having disorders in sex development were
raised as girls were observed to be
Girls when they were born it looks like
in these two cases in either in either
circumstance it's just grossly unfair
for real women that there are
differences between men and women that's
why we have two separate categories and
if someone has an XY chromosome they
should not in my mind be allowed
anywhere near a women's
competition no and it's just extraord
ordinary that that we've got here I mean
it's more than I think it's 11 years now
since uh Joe Rogan identified this
problem in MA MMA fighting uh where a
man who transitioned into being a woman
and who worked as was in the US Navy and
then by the way worked as a trucker to
save up money for the sex change
operation um went into MMA female MMA
fighting and was just you know punching
the hell out of the women the he was
competing against and that's 11 years
ago since that Scandal blew up and as
you know all of this is so connected
isn't it Rita either there's the reality
and you accept it or you're made to just
go along with something that is just
unsustainable it is not sustainable for
for men to be put in a ring with women
in boxing competitions and not be
expected to beat the hell out of the
woman in question and then obviously any
same person would say aren't we against
men beating up women for sport or
anything else and the answer is yes
except apparently at the Olympic Games
and this is just the sort of thing that
deranges a society uh about the only
laugh I've got this week was when uh you
know notice that the I think it was in
the pole vaulting that there was a
gentleman who's who's who um how can I
say this politely whose member was
somewhat large and not tucked in and uh
and caused a certain problem for him and
much Amusement for others but I was
pleased to see yesterday a cartoon of
somebody reporting this and the and the
the man's wife says but is that the
men's poll volting or the women's poll
vating only only in the Olympics in
2024 uh would you have to ask that
question uh the whole thing is absurd
and I do hope the ioc looks at this
again it's totally unfair anyone I I
know again we're not meant to make
mention anything that's in front of our
eyes but anyone who knows anything about
male and female development knows it
even if you go onto some kind of hormone
drug at some stage if you've gone
through development as as a teenager as
a man you're going to have larger hands
larger uh um uh um shoulder uh shoulders
you're going to have a different bone
density you're going to have much more
strength all sorts of things and it's
just a fact so I suppose decent people
have to decide do we actually want to
encourage a delusion to to to rule over
everything or can we just get some
sanity
back well the at the ISC at Olympic
level uh any Elite level there is just
so much testing for illegal drugs uh I
don't know why they just don't reinstate
the gender testing the sex testing that
they used to have before they decided
they're disgraceful and not politically
correct and then there is no doubt
whether someone is uh has a disorder of
sex development is interx is uh
transition whatever the case may be if
they've got XY chromosomes they will be
eliminated from the women's competition
and we all know where we stand but uh
the misinformation and the gaslighting
we've seen this week has been quite
astonishing now I've got to ask you
before you go about uh Camala Harris and
her choice of running mate she's picked
the far-left governor of Minnesota this
is a man who made headlines for a
signing legislation to put tampons in
boys restrooms in schools he backed the
BLM rights even as they destroyed
Minneapolis and who said he'd provide
Giant Ladders Douglas so illegal
immigrants could climb any wall Donald
Trump built uh this uh choice is um
astonishing uh what do you make of Tim
Waltz as a future
vep well you know it's it's interesting
when this happens is that the whole
world's the media attention turns onto
onto Tim Waltz and you've already listed
some of the the really I mean I think
just indefensible things that he's done
in his career of course he will now
pretend to be somebody else just as CA
tries to pretend to be somebody else but
you know remember the intense uh
scrutiny of JD Vance once Trump uh
nominated him as his vep uh Choice it
was very very interesting because of
course everybody goes over every single
little thing that Vance has ever said
and they they they they find something
that offends some people and then they
blow it up we we should expect the same
thing to be happening with Tim Waltz in
the coming days and uh uh we'll see if
it does um but it ought to and you know
all of this stuff that you've just
listed the bananas stuff about tampons
and boys bathrooms and and the and and
the BLM Riot stuff and and else you know
if he tries to run as a Law and Order
candidate I would expect him to get a
certain amount of push back but uh um
some of the media being what it is maybe
maybe we won't maybe he'll be able to
reinvent himself just as kamla has been
able to reinvent herself as a
sparklingly uh Innovative brilliant
successful Dynamic and inspiring
political leader who will lead the Free
World in the 21st century
oh look I'm sure the media protection
racket will be in full swing but just
the fact that she did not pick the most
obvious candidate uh which may have
secured her Pennsylvania and it seems to
be Douglas purely because of fears that
picking a Jewish man who has been pro-
Israel was going to cause all sorts of
Divisions within the Democrats perhaps
even see unrest at the Democrat National
Convention I mean the Democrats appear
to have a anti-Semitism problem that
runs a lot deeper than just the
squad well you know it's it's it's
interesting Josh Shapiro was the name on
everyone's lips he's a very impressive
politician quite an impressive
politician I should say um uh he did
have to do the full gravel when it
turned out that at the age of 20 he had
said that the Palestinians uh may not
want peace all that much um he rode that
back and apologized for being correct at
the age of and made sure that he was he
was now Incorrect and it still didn't
get him the nomination um yes I mean
we'll see I
mean is Tim Waltz able to bolster carela
Harris's credentials on foreign policy
questions um you know we're going to see
aren't we but if there's any uh uh
weakness there I would very hope much
hope that it would be exposed as it
would on either side you know this is
this is 90 days left of this and as as
you know and everyone watching knows uh
these are long weeks uh at the moment in
which anything can happen and three
months is a heck of a long time in uh
Cala world and we don't need her to
explain to us quite how long time can
be no please not Douglas Murray thank
you so much for your time this
evening thank you