and welcome to this talk it's uh
Thursday the 16th of March now
it's starting to look like there's been
an international conspiracy
among some of the world's most senior
scientists now that sounds utterly
absurd
but that's the way it's starting to look
now I'm going to play you a couple of
Clips today from the house select
committee on the coronavirus pandemic
which is holding a hearing on the
origins of SARS Coronavirus 2.
so I'm going to play you the first clip
now and then we'll talk about it and um
really it looks like you couldn't make
this stuff up it's absolutely incredible
so let's go straight over to the hearing
now
I now recognize Miss Melia Takis from
New York for five minutes of questions
thank you chairman for two years myself
and the other Republicans on this
subcommittee connected the dots we
exposed the evidence supporting our
strong belief that covid was developed
and leaked from the Wuhan lab and during
those same two years the same Democrats
that sit on this committee they only
hindered they obstructed they refused to
hold hearings and get to the truth now
we see mounting evidence supporting the
covid-19 originated from the lab in
Wuhan China run by the communist Chinese
party and this hearing is about getting
to the truth I thank the chairman for
making this the very first hearing
because the American people who have
seen just as many fellow Americans die
from covid
as nearly as many die from covid that
died in every war since the American
Revolution combined deserve to know the
truth
Dr Redfield you pointed to the lab
League Theory even before we did
in mid-January of 2020 you expressed
concerns to Dr fauci to Jeremy pharah of
UK's welcome trust and to Dr Tedros of
World Health Organization that quote we
had to take the lab leak hypothesis with
extreme seriousness and you urge Dr
fauci to investigate both the lab and
the natural hypotheses
shortly thereafter on February 1st
Farrah convened a meeting of a group of
11 top scientists across five time zones
and asked Dr fauci to join and he wrote
quote my preference is to keep this
group really tight obviously ask
everyone to treat in total confidence
unquote
Dr Redfield you were excluded from this
call but up until then you had been on
every single you were including every
other conversation what changed why do
you think that you were excluded from
these conversations
thank you very much I think just to
emphasize uh in in early to mid-January
I did have multiple calls with fauci
Ferrara and and Tedros about how
important I thought it was that science
get engaged in in aggressive
aggressively pursuing both hypotheses
I also expressed as a clinical
virologist that I felt it was not
scientifically plausible
that this virus went from a bat to
humans and became one of the most
infectious viruses that we have for
humans all viruses are not the same so
when you look at coronaviruses for SARS
and MERS for example when they entered
the human species which they did Via an
intermediate they never learned how to
go human to human even to this day they
don't know how to go human to human so
you can't equate Ebola with a
coronavirus now why do you why do you
think you were excluded from those calls
because it was I was told to me that
they wanted a single narrative and that
I obviously had a different point of
view okay and emails following the
conference call for the 11 scientists
told fauci that they all found the
genetic sequence inconsistent with
expectations from evolutionary theory
basically what you're saying however
just three days later these four
scientists had drafted a paper arguing
the exact opposite and that's now the
infamous proximal origin of SARS covid
II our investigations show this paper
was prompted by Dr fauci among others
with a goal to disprove the lab League
Theory what is the likelihood that these
scientists came across additional
information just three days after making
these statements to conclude with such
certainty that covid-19 came from nature
instead of the lab League that they
thought it was three days earlier yeah I
think it's unfortunate again I've said
this before that this whole approach
that was taken on January on February
1st and subsequently in the month of
February if you really want to be
truthful it's antithetical to science
thank you science has debate and they
squashed any debate thank you given what
we know now and looking at all the
conversations in February of 2020 and
before the release of the paper do you
think that Dr fauci used this paper to
hide the gain of function research
created that grain of function research
created this virus
I can't talk about fauci's motivation
do you think that the paper does hide
the truth I think it's an inaccurate
paper that basically was part of a
narrative that they were creating
remember this pandemic did not start in
January at the seafood market we now
know there was infections all the way
back into September this was a narrative
that was decided that they were going to
say this came from a wet market and they
were going to do everything they could
to support it to negate any discussion
about the possibility that this came
from a library I got 20 seconds left Dr
fauci was affirmatively towed and told
in an email that ni Aid had a monetary
relationship with the Wuhan Institute
through ecohealth Alliance he he was
told this in January 27th of 2020. do
you think that Dr fauci intentionally
lied under oath to senator Paul when he
vehemently denied nih's funding of gain
of function research I think there's no
doubt that NIH was funding gain or
function research is it likely that
American tax dollars funded the gain of
function research that created this
virus I think it did not only from NIH
but from the state department you usaid
and from DOD I'm out of time thank you
very much
wow that is just uh
pretty incredible isn't it so um just
the characters is so the the this is a
Nicole uh
um New York Senator and that of course
was Dr Robert Redfield the director for
the Centers for Disease Control
he urged Dr fauci to investigate and Sir
Jeremy Farrah the director of the
welcome trust former professor of
tropical medicine Oxford University
seems to have been in this uh
link and um Dr Ted Ross of course which
is no great surprise from the
so-called wealth World Health
Organization they wanted a really tight
group with total confidence it's just
unbelievable
this is the anti-thesis of Science and
and Dr Dr Redfield that Redfield there
as a clinical virologist said The
evolutionary jump really just just
doesn't make any sense of course I never
found the intermediate species you know
can there be any question now that this
is a lab League
11 scientists all agreed
um that it couldn't it couldn't come
from a natural origin and then a few
days later they wrote they wrote this uh
this paper here or they worked out on
this paper here somehow
proximal origin of SARS coronavirus II
and one sentence here is our analysis
clearly shows that SARS coronavirus 2 is
not a laboratory construct or
purposefully manipulated virus
now this is published in nature magazine
at this time we believed that scientific
journals were
as good as we got the closest thing we
got to truth now it looks like
it's it's all been a complete sham
and so these people here these authors
surely they now have questions to answer
a department of immunology and
microbiology uh
California
um
this one is from the University of
Edinburgh in the UK
this one is from um
School of Public Health of Columbia
University New York
School of Life and environmental
Sciences School of Medical Science
University of Sydney Australia I mean
this appears to be an international
conspiracy it is quite unbelievable
because apparently this group of 11
scientists who are on this call we were
not told who they were but they got
together agreed it was evolutionary
impossible for this virus to jump and
then we got this paper here just and
this paper was first published on the
17th of March 2020.
um quite incredible
um and then of course talk about Dr
fauci there now Dr fauci assured us that
he was the science is that what he said
I am the science
so in other words if you disagree with
me you disagreeing with science
now some might think that's a little bit
arrogant for someone who's got uh about
40 Years of administrative experience
uh plenty of articles on this this is
one of the more amusing ones I found
here uh where uh Elon musker
Elon Musk was uh
commenting on that this this I am
science statement that refuted all
criticism of covet policy
um just how can a scientist say I am the
science it's just the arrogance is just
beyond description
science works by uh this dialectic
progression
of arguments so Dr Redfield there
former director of uh
in Centers for Disease Control
National Institutes of Health money went
to the ego Health Alliance that went to
Wuhan no doubt National Institutes of
Health funding funded gain of function
research in the Wuhan Laboratory
it's it really couldn't make it up now
I'm going to play you one more clip
because this adds quite a lot of context
that's
pretty useful from from the same
hearings Let's uh let's listen to this
one uh I now recognize the chairman of
the full committee Mr Comer from
Kentucky for five minutes of questions
thank you Mr chairman one of the
prevailing themes of the pandemic has
been scientists use of the media to
downplay the lab leak Theory Mr Wade in
your career you worked at nature
magazine Science magazine and the New
York Times would you agree that the
scientific establishment used the media
to downplay the lab League Theory
microphone
that's a complicated issue Mr uh coma I
think the media was used it was used in
this particular campaign to establish
the natural origin Theory
um
uh the the Santa Fe Community is
is very afraid to speak up on political
issues and I think the reason is that um
the government grants are handed out
through this system of peer uh peer
review committees and so you don't want
you don't want any single scientist on
your peer review committee to vote
against you uh therefore because you'll
do you won't get your gun it's so
competitive so therefore scientists are
very reluctant to get it to say anything
that is politically divisive or might
turn on the scientists off against them
this this means that
they cannot be relied upon in the way
that I think we would like them to to be
independent and forthright and call it
as they see it okay well we saw this
first with the proximal origin
paper that said quote our analysis
clearly showed that code 19 is not a
laboratory construct or a purposely
manipulated virus end quote this was
first published on February 17th of
2020. each witness I have a simple
question
yes or no was there science available to
make such an unequivocal statement
against the possibility of a lab leak
that early on in February of 2020.
absolutely no
Mr way uh no it was not
yeah I I don't have sufficient I don't
have sufficient frame of reference to
give an answer no
next Peter dossick of equal Health
Alliance orchestrated a letter in the
Lancet a prestigious Journal February 19
2020 that said quote we strongly condemn
conspiracy theories suggesting that
covid-19 does not have a natural origin
end quote
each witness yes or no is the
possibility covid-19 leaked from a lab a
conspiracy theory absolutely not no
uh uh I would say no but also it has
been approached to such
no
Dr Redfield I want to stick with you you
have said before that you were locked
out of conversations about the lab leak
by Dr fauci and Dr Collins
do you think they kept you out of the
conversations because you believe
covid-19 may have come from a lab
yeah I think I've made it very clear in
January to all of them why we had to
aggressively pursue this and I let them
know as a virologist that I didn't see
that this was anything like SARS or MERS
because they never learned how to
transmit human to human that I felt this
virus was too infectious for humans
there was a lot of evidence that lab
actually published in 2014 that they put
the H2 receptor into humanized mice so
it could infect human tissue I think you
know we had to really seriously go after
the fact it came from the lab and they
knew that that was how I was thinking
although I thought we had to go after
both hypotheses and I was told later I
didn't know I was excluded I didn't know
there was a February first conference
call until the Freedom of Information
came out with the emails and I was quite
upset as the CDC director that I was
excluded from those discussions why
would they do this because I had a
different point of view and I was told
they made a decision that they would
keep This Confidential until they came
up with a single narrative which I will
argue is antithetical to science science
never selects a single narrative we
Foster as my colleague here just said we
Foster debate and we we're confident
that with debate science will eventually
get to the truth this was an apiary
decision that there's one point of view
that we're going to put out there and
anyone who doesn't agree with it is
going to be sidelined and as I say I was
only the CDC director right and I was
sidelined
well I think Dr fauci and Dr Collins got
caught with their hand in the cookie jar
they got caught supercharging viruses in
an unsecure Chinese lab they wanted to
push the envelope and so they got
together to cover themselves
cover up their story and wipe their
Fingerprints of the virus that is killed
more than one million Americans
the quote Jurassic Park
they were quote so preoccupied with
whether or not they could they didn't
stop to think if they should end quote
good grief right okay
um
supercharged
the virus
so that's James Comer uh uh
congressperson from congressman from
Kentucky
the chair of the committee so Mr Wade
there involved in a lot of publishing
saying saying that the government grants
are basically awarded to people who
don't rock the boat therefore
there wasn't a lot of boat rockers
you know we needed a man and a woman to
stand in the Gap and did we get one well
not many and those that we did were
silenced by the media
and of course most of us were swirling
around in complete ignorance we were
treated like other mushrooms during this
time
naively it now turned out trusting
International scientists taking them at
their word believing that the peer
review process for journals worked and
would filter out inaccurate material
when in actual fact this was published
in peer-reviewed journals
the nature journal the Lancet Journal I
mean the these are we thought
these were the Bedrock the the damage
this is done to confidence in science is
is is Indescribable the scientific
process is still probably the best way
we've got of getting to truth
it's the way that it's it's handled by
human beings as the problem it's not
knocking science but the way the way
science has been done has been
completely
discredited in my view
I do like that I love the way Dr
Redfield was so definitive in answering
his questions uh no
what he talked about there was um ace2
receptor this is probably how the Gainer
function was done H2 receptor was put
into humanized mice now this is genetic
jiggery pokery and and basically what
they do is they'll take a human gene in
this case the gene to make the H2
receptor which of course is where the
SARS coronavirus 2 Spike protein fits in
he put that Gene into a mouse so you get
a you get a mouse that's part human and
and part Mouse it still looks like a
mouse but it's got a human genome or
several human genes to make this ace2
receptor now some some of you might find
the idea of these transgenic human mice
organisms are distasteful to begin with
but that appears to be what they did
then they could continuously reinfect
the mice with the SARS coronavirus too
multiple generations of infection take
out the the uh the variants which are
more transmissible between mice
and because this was done in mice but it
was actually a human ace2 receptor then
by definition it was going to be more
transmissible in mice so Middle East
Respiratory Sim that Dr Redfield talked
about SARS coronavirus one which Dr
Redfield talk about weren't that
transmissible the reason we had the
pandemic is firstly that the SARS
coronavirus II was highly transmissible
and secondly that it um it was um
transmissible before the patients were
were fully uh symptomatic or even before
they were symptomatic at all
and that doesn't happen with Natural
Evolution or if it did the intermediate
animal species with hosts would be there
and and the the pandemic would have
emerged at different places at different
times that didn't happen
and I'm just really pleased that the
truth is it's coming to light now
um the disillusionment the
um betrayal
let down by governments I mean we
believe our senior scientific officer at
the time might have been involved in
trying to dampen down shall we say the
lab leak hypothesis
um
the most some of the most senior
scientists in the world I feel betrayed
um because the information we're given
at the time didn't allow us to see this
it's now coming out
and um it's just a complete
International disgrace
um so it now looks like American money
funded the research that went to Wuhan
that
caused the release of The Accidental
release of the virus and that caused the
pandemic
this is now um
uh very real possibility and let's hope
that this this committee can come to
some definitive conclusions
and I think um there's a reasonably good
chance that it will
um
hopefully we'll be hearing from Dr fauci
and Dr Collins who according to Mr James
Comer got their hand caught in the
cookie jar
let's hope that we hear from them
soon
unbelievable
I'm absolutely unbelievable
um
I'll leave it there while I'm still in
professional mode and thank you for
watching