so Les and Joyce Pilgrim want to talk a
little bit more about the Tucker
interview I know you addressed this on
Friday in the live stream but let's
let's look big picture here what are the
most important points made in the Tucker
Putin interview that need to be
stressed I I'm going off a bit of the
top of my head here but these are the
things that impress me I mean I read a
little bit a couple of the articles I
mean there were like five takeaways and
so forth that would help if I had the
notes in front of me but first and
foremost th that first 30
minutes when he gave Tucker that 1200y
year history lesson that fits perfectly
with Putin's uh now 12E emphasis on
building Russia as a civilization state
so the the the the historical
backdrop to what's happening today
stretching back over the over the last
thousand years will give you a sense of
the kind of mentality that's operating
now in Russia in China in their own 2500
year context in India their own 3,000
year context in uh turkey in their
1200e context in Saudi Arabia and Iran
in the Sahel region of of Africa that's
booting out the last vest
of French colonialism that'll give you
real sense that the an remember the
thesis of of part of the thesis of a new
conservative age is rising but
specifically the thesis of the
civilization State and civilizational
populism in general is that the old
ancient civilizations are rising again
now they're rising in a modern
form but every culture has the seeds of
its own renewal that's pitum sorin the
the russian-american sociologist he
founded the sociology department at
Harvard uh he argued that every
dilapidating secular sensate age ends up
functioning much uh like
compost the rot societal rot function
like compost to reawaken the religious
sacred seeds that gave birth to the
civilization in the first place and
those seeds rise up again and that's
what we're seeing throughout the world
so his history lesson that he gave to
Tucker I think was was fully con
competent with this new Consciousness
for lack a better term not to sound too
new Agy but this new uh Collective
Consciousness rooted in The Reawakening
of the ancient religious civilizations
of the world because ancient
civilization was were all basically you
know the civilizations of the Gods as it
were all all over the world uh it just
doesn't matter which one you look at the
Egyptian you know Babylonian Greek Roman
Chinese Indian um the the zarus Russian
I mean they're all empires of Heaven
they're on on Earth and and those sacred
seeds are rising up again so that's
basic it's happening here as well it's
going to be harder here because
globalism has taken
such such strong root in in our nation
so we'll probably be the last one but
boy with Trump trump in in place who's
embodying a lot of these transitional
Dynamics um uh he should be able to
hasten uh and Quicken that transition
even here as well but it may happen in
Europe just this year with the European
Parliament elections that where the
European Parliament may actually go
civilizational populace for the first
time in terms of its majority so that's
the first thing as I think we saw the
evidence of the civilization State uh
the uh the second thing is he he
confirmed absolutely um that it was NATO
expansion that was the reason for uh his
uh invasion of Ukraine that he had
warned the um Powers at be at NATO back
at the Munich conference and again I
always forget it I think it's 2006 and
maybe 2007 it maybe 200 I forget it's
right around that range in the late
2000s that was a NATO
conference uh like he talked about with
talking to Clinton when he was an
underling to yelton back in I think it
was 98 say hey if we want to join NATO
could we and Clinton originally said
yeah I no problem but then later on that
night at dinner said yeah I talked to my
people they said no no way it's not
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turly right now Putin was invited every
NATO security meeting up to about like
20072 2008 after he drew a line said you
guys
you guys pass this line and you try to
bring Ukraine into NATO we're done at
least as far as he was concerned eastern
Ukraine east of the Neer River the
Russians speaking side of Ukraine that's
you're done you you have you have
officially revers the Cuban Missile
Crisis you you're now doing what cruff
tried to do with Cuba you you're now
doing with Ukraine you go there we will
act and we did we did within a year we
offered Ukraine membership because we
were Kings of the world and again he
pointed that out we were a unipolar
world where the United States was the
sole superpower and wrote the rules for
the rest of the world that's what a
rules-based order is all about the
liberal International order is all about
and Putin recognized around that 2008
period that the only way Russia's
national security can be protected
ultimately is if Russia rose up as a
civilizational state big enough to take
on globalism and and interrupt the
unipolar world with what's called a
multi-polar world where Russia and China
and India and turkey and Iran and Saudi
Arabia all begin to Ally with each other
in order to push back against secular
liberal globalism so he affirmed that
this war is ultimately about that that's
what this is about it's not about
democracy haha haa it's a joke that is
and I think everyone sees that it's not
about it I just ask I was I said this
the other day ask Gonzalo lra what he
thinks about our uh war on behalf of
democracy he's now dead he was arrested
for he's a YouTuber if you don't know
he's a YouTuber who uh was very critical
of Ukraine he got arrested for no reason
other than get making YouTube videos for
being critical of Ukraine he was beaten
and killed in prison in a Ukrainian
prison this isn't democracy this isn't
say he's zinski suspended all elections
there are no elections coming in in uh
in in Ukraine so it's absolutely absurd
so I think that was the second big
takeaway that what we have argued
consistently for nearly two years that
this is ultimately a battle over whether
we will have a unipolar world or a
multi-polar world that's what we argued
from day one is about the maintenance of
the liberal International order that's
well and making and Mak making uh uh
everybody with their hands in the
coffers of the military-industrial
complex very very rich I mean it's it's
it's always with money but the liberal
International order maintains that
maintains that lucrative
affluence um he affirmed that he
affirmed that the United States uh
destroyed um uh the uh nordstream
pipeline that was that was a big
affirmation oh there were a couple of
other things uh that they got into that
found interesting I mean he he again he
affirmed uh the role of religion and the
importance of religion in in the in the
in the Russo orthos sphere again he
wasn't even talking about Russia he was
talking about the Eurasian sphere
including ukra well eastern Ukraine and
and Georgia and the like the and Armenia
that that that that and and bellarus and
that is not to be interrupted by a
secular liberal Insanity where we will
defend that or spere against your
Universalist
liberalism um those were some of the
major takeaways uh for me in terms of
the in terms of the things he was he was
talking about also just the AI that I
found the AI question very interesting
where again he affirmed that you know
the most important thing is we maintain
the Dignity of our Humanity in the midst
of it we want to be number one in AI he
was very open about that he's been that
we have many ways a a sort of uh a a
global cultural war on AI both Russia
and China want to be at the Forefront
because Putin has said he who controls
AI ultimately controls the world so he
wants to control AI but he does not want
AI to
interfere with the essence of what it
means to be human so AI that means AI
must always be a servant and never a
master so is again this is happening at
the exact same time and that would
probably be the final takeaway it's
happening at the exact same time that
our that our incontinent and chief tried
to give a press conference and it it
couldn't even give a 10-minute one
without it just being a disaster as
opposed to this two hour like University
lecture that we were given uh by Putin
it was it was an extraordinary
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