hey welcome to real life talk and we're
going to be having a great time today
i'm with my good friend
from israel amir servate and uh we're
gonna have a good time in fact
so much so he's gonna take the show over
and ask me a bunch of questions as well
so listen i hope you love it here we go
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so listen um welcome and i'm you're
laughing already
because it seems like even though we're
uh most often a world apart
yes and going in different directions
we're always together in spirits
colossians
colossians 2 5 is what i always think
about you and i where though we be
separate
we are rejoicing and rejoicing each
other's
uh faith and witness from afar so amen
um
we have some things to do while you're
here to advance the kingdom of god and
the truth of god
so what's going on what's going on with
america i'll tell you i honestly
must tell you that when i told people
that i'm coming over to your church
today um they thought i'm crazy
yeah a lot i mean i'm not talking about
uh
americans i'm talking about israelis who
are
watching and people from our and the
reason
is because we have been in the last six
months conditioned
uh to think that uh the way you guys
meet
is um almost almost can be defined as
evil
and i'm talking about uh you know no
social distancing no mask
and you you know sitting next to each
other you're singing and all that
and i'm thinking to myself my
my friend jack defies the laws of
nature basically when everybody
is telling me that this virus only
exists in places or can you can contract
the virus only if
you don't keep social distance and you
don't wear a mask
and i'm like what is it
that is going on in your church i mean
i'm like
i need to ask you first thing first
thing
how in the world on may 31st you had the
guts
knowing what you know to open your
church yeah
and to to have it couple things number
one
uh you said may 31st we'll talk about
that in a moment
and then knowing what i know so
may 31st actually was honestly
depends on my bible not not my idea
uh i was going through ezra and nehemiah
we were shut down
trump asked america to shut down we
didn't know what we had
regarding this nobody knew what kovid
was except the chinese they're the ones
that invented it
so we didn't know what was going to
happen so when trump asked
america to shut down he asked for 15
days to flatten the curve
and so we again not knowing what we had
were we were we going to see
hospitals overrun with people as they
were saying were we going to see people
dying in the streets there's going to be
possibly a million dead ifauchi said if
if we're lucky you know we'll get by
with the
with just a million dead all of these
things i get it
i get that so we were shut down we were
shut down
uh then trump came out at the end of the
15 days and he said the curve is not
flattening
can you give me another 15 days we did
that so 30 days we obeyed the laws of
the land
we obeyed uh the request which which he
never did
in the history of generals of 30 days
not having church
are you kidding no never we never shut
up so 30 days were already a
massive sacrifice i have to tell you
i'll be honest with you
i struggled with am i obeying the
president
or the holy spirit and shutting down
this is my personal
i've never revealed that to anybody
before
because we're looking at i'm thinking
there's going to be dead people
everywhere we don't want to contribute
to that wow this is absolutely radical
this is amazing so what do we do
in the meantime we need to really ramp
up our online teaching programs which we
did
everyone stepped up tremendously and so
well as this was going on then
trump brilliantly saw through the
politics of things
i actually know this personally trump
saw the politics of how this was being
played
and and a brilliant move on his part i
didn't like it
he handed jurisdiction back over to the
state's governors
which is actually part of the our us
constitution states rights
which means every state i don't i know
amir
you you know you do not know being an
israeli
every state which is different from the
eu every state in the united states
is a sovereign state it's like a country
under an
umbrella yeah with a governor and the
governor is a president senate and
congress and everything
exactly and even the governor has an air
force every state has an air force
every state has an army and the governor
is that president of that
country so to speak however we've all
agreed
to live under the constitution and so
uh as soon as the jurisdiction went to
the governors
we immediately immediately within a week
petitioned our governor what is your
plan
when are you going to allow churches
no answer no answer we petitioned him
numerous times no answer no answer
uh then we began to talk to our senators
state senators and assembly personnel
that are up in
sacramento and and we were told he's not
going to answer churches
churches are not on his radar uh be that
as it may that's his right to think that
way
all the while we're now taking phone
calls
dealing with people who are fighting
depression i'm scared i don't know what
to do i can't come to church
i don't know what's going on i'm
watching online but it's not the same
and over the study time of ezra and
nehemiah personally i started going
through ezra and nehemiah because
to me those are two books about
reopening
and right building rebuilding reopening
and so i was going through that
and on april 26th i wrote it down
on april 26 i felt
very strongly in my private prayer time
that god said to my heart
may 31st i didn't know what may 31st was
number one i got out my phone and i
looked it's a sunday oh my gosh
this is the lord impressing on my heart
may 31st
when i started to let news out to the
staff that we're going to be opening up
on may 31st
i don't want any of you to violate your
conscience if you can't come you're not
obligated to come
but we're going to do this we're going
to follow god on this and we're going to
take the heat because
jesus has made it really clear behold i
have set before you an open door
that no man can shut and then i was
convicted on the fact that
i believe that i do not have the
authority to open doors that he's not
opening or to shut doors that
uh the reverse of all that and
and i i actually went to the lord and i
said lord i with good intention shut the
doors of your church
and i don't believe i have that
authority only you can do that if god
lord if you want our door shut you have
the you have the authorities
chain the doors if if our government
chains our doors shut
then we're not going to open our doors
we'll go in the street we'll go
we'll go to the park you'll do church
but you know we can never
stop church because hebrews 10 25 says
you can't
you can't stop church and so uh we
opened up
obviously we opened up and what we
underestimated
the need of people we've been packed
ever since in fact we've had record
attendance on wednesdays and sundays
ever since
even special services we had almost um
seven or eight hundred youth show up
last night yes
amazing i heard about that 138 youth
came to christ
last saturday we made international news
where we and since the covid
opening since may 31st we wound up
baptizing
a thousand and four new converts last
saturday
so the lord told us to open
and he didn't ask me to test the wind
and ask for the opinions of others
i understand that people think uh you
know around the world
because around the world it's illegal um
it's illegal that's what's different
here exactly and see that's the thing i
i was wondering i know jack and i know
that he would
never violate uh
obviously some uh law that says you
cannot open the church so i was
wondering
what is it in the american system that
is so different
than the israeli one in places in
england canada
uh canada australia uh england all of
that
in in to i think today you explained it
to me for the first time and i
i honestly think that there's a lot of
americans yeah that don't even
understand isn't that funny you just use
the words beautiful you just said you
said you just explained
it to me today you know actually i
didn't explain it to you you know what i
did we were talking
about it yeah yeah you were talking
about
it and i and i said oh here here here's
read the first amendment
i did and you read it and i saw the
light boom come on you
and here's the amazing thing and i'm not
asking anyone to agree with this
what we are doing here uh
is we are using like paul used his roman
citizenship
i'm using the god-given first amendment
because there is no pandemic that
supersedes the first amendment there's
no war
there is no you explain to me today that
what if the church what if the
government tomorrow will say look
there's going to be riots in your area
please shut down your church
look to um there's going to be some
procession or there's going to be some
i mean you explained that and i it
finally clicked that
if you don't have the first amendment
every other
weekend they can come to you with and
they would and they would of course
but let's talk about the health
part of it because sure you see that's
the the thing i i struggled with
for a long time okay so you have the
first amendment i understand
it's legal to open the church aren't you
afraid that people will
contract the virus well first of all i
don't want anybody to get sick
so as a pastor i want my community
healthier than the governor wants this
community
right think about it absolutely um so
number one
let's talk about covet in fact let me
at at at this time of the month i think
we are somewhere at
200 000 dead in america
and so when you ask about the 200 000
that are dead
and i encourage everyone to ask this
question
out of the 200 000 that are dead how
many of the 200
000 um how many people die since january
to now there's 200 000 dead of covid how
many people died of the flu
this year so they'll tell you that from
within the two hundred thousand
that well you just being a brilliant jew
that you are you just jumped ahead to
the answer
when you ask someone even anybody
well there's 200 000 dead oh wow that's
amazing because the normal flu season is
is is 50 to 60 000
dead so you mean 250 to 60 000 are dead
because we always have we always have
that every year the same yes basically
right the same amount of people dying in
the flu
how many people died of bronchial
infections or complications how many
people
died the 200 000 oh no no so what you're
saying is
there's a big number but they're not all
dead from covey but we're being told
they are
so the 200 000 they are telling you is
literally
deaths from everything deaths from every
medical conditions
and they and they label it as covet to
scare you
look i'm not going to judge their motive
i can just give you the facts i don't
know about them scaring people but i do
know this that every hospital
every county gets federal
money for every toe i mean it sounds
terrible
every toe that is in the morgue at the
hospital that's labeled covet
it's very financially profitable for
that hospital
and for that county because some bozo
somewhere
said let's give a federal backing
federal
compensation for covet patients example
case in point
you can google this and see if it's true
it's insane a young man at the age
i think is about 20 22 years of age in
florida
headline news cnn man a young man dies
of covet it's a big deal because young
people don't die from covet true
young man dead of dead from covet cnn
got busted
because the young man that was dead with
kovid
was riding a motorcycle and he got
killed on his motorcycle
when they tested his body fluids and uh
postmortem they found copenhagen he had
covet and so they what went on his toe
i see covet so you as a pastor
sleep well at night knowing that you're
not
causing your congregation to contract
the virus by
meeting the way let's let's answer it
scientifically
uh we are about we're a congregation of
about
nine to ten thousand adults not
including children that meet
every week we not only meet every week
we meet
also every midweek okay
since may 31st may so
june july august september four months
okay no outbreak oh no outbreak and this
is no no
people are i know and that's exactly why
i i had to ask you these questions
because
uh honestly people don't know that
around the world i'm saying at least
from where i'm coming from
do they want to know people are sure
they were told that any
gathering such as yours is
a terrible thing and therefore by the
way they accept
okay so i cannot do this i you know we
don't do church in israel
for for six months now um but in israel
unfortunately we don't have the first
amendment
so because we don't have the first
amendment we
that's why i'm so glad that you guys can
fight with the first amendment
and keep your rights uh you know
use your rights to keep the church open
because we don't have that so amir asked
me this jack don't you care how
how selfish of you well i already kind
of asked that in the very beginning so
here's my answer yeah
um in this world people get sick every
day in ministry you know this in
ministry we're going to the hospitals
every day people are dying all the time
that's what we the church our size
people are dying a couple people a week
think of it people get sick all the time
here's what's happened
with this covet thing which by the way
let's remember something i just heard
the other day
from a very well-known los angeles-based
nationally syndicated radio host
say this terrible pandemic is the worst
thing
in history and i thought you
you were either incredibly uninformed
or diabolically deceitful because the
spanish flu
did more damage in six weeks in 1918
than covid will ever do yeah and so
here's the thing
people get sick all the time and and and
all of a sudden
in america maybe the world death is
unacceptable
yeah so our governor said we're not
moving on until there's no more dead
yes really how's that gonna happen yeah
it's it's not gonna it's not gonna
happen
and and also this that
in human suffering with all that's going
on
how do you explain scientifically how do
you explain
that it just so happens during the covet
season that suicides in america have
uh skyrocketed all-time american high
that's what we deal with here depression
suicidal thoughts terror
fear with joy
love care family the one thing people
don't
right don't can find anywhere exactly
because why because the church is
transcendent
it's not essential or non-essential the
church is something that the
unbeliever doesn't i think covet is also
in a way very uh prophetic in a way
the reason why i'm saying that is we've
been talking forever about globalism
and about the you know one world
government and how the world is moving
towards that one and
it seems like everything the globalist
tried
up until now didn't work and for the
first time in the history of planet
earth the entire planet is dancing to
the same music
of one organization and that's the world
health organization and the mirror
it's the first time in in 2000 years
that the church has universally been
shut down
well i i never thought about that think
of it
it has definitely pitted the church
against the kingdoms of this world
isn't that about it it's uh yeah so
who's in charge
because it sounds cavalier and i'm i'm
judged as being careless and heartless
i want to but i asked the world this
question
um ask yourself who's in charge who's in
charge of your life who's in charge of
your nation
who's in charge of the world some are
going to say the eu
or the usa or some for me
it's the lord and people are going to
say you
bumbling idiot that's a typical
christian response
no listen covet is
0.003
microns in size
the average mask exactly i was about to
show you the mass that the mask that's
over
most people are using this one
see this mess it's not going to protect
you from the box of this mask
it says that it will it will stop
particulates to 1.25 microns
that means covet goes right through this
and into your lungs
this mask will not work for viruses
if you're sick or if the other person's
sick and you think you're protecting
yourself this will not work
against the virus that's why no one at
the cdc in atlanta
or at the world health organization when
handling a virus
is wearing a mask they're wearing a
spacesuit
it's an absolute you mentioned globalism
it is an
absolute movement toward
economic governance
i believe personal invasion where
imagine
what if they tell me you can't go to
israel anymore unless on your passport
is stamped in official coven vaccination
uh stamp this is uh
look i'm not i'm not saying it's not
going to it's happening no it's going to
happen
so my thing is this i know my bible i've
read my bible
and you show me anyone anyone show me
where i'm supposed to show the church
no i definitely understand that i can't
but do you find i mean
i think it was important for me look i'm
here i'm from israel i'm not american
i it's almost like coming to the lion's
den right now
when it comes to the way they describe
kovit and now i'm coming
to a place loaded with people and uh
let's face it it's not uh 20 and below
the people
uh it's it's the age group that you're
going to see
you know and i'm saying to myself uh you
know and i must be
honest i asked myself is that smart to
travel
to america to begin with and i don't
know if it's ever smart to travel
well but i think it's super smart but
it's that smart to come to places like
that and i
and i knew i knew that i not only should
come but not only
i want to use that time to
finally expose the whole
hoax here yeah and uh and and people
should relax
and in the mirror listen you know what
isn't it funny right now
at least in america they're telling us
that now they're telling us
the best thing you can do now even over
social distancing and wearing a mask
is washing your hands and stay home if
you're sick
did you know my mom has been telling me
that
all my life everybody's mom's been
telling them that for five thousand
years exactly when you don't feel well
yeah
i'm sure i'm sure adam and eve told cain
and abel stay home
so we're we're still telling people if
you're watching yeah right
stay home right and so we tell people to
church if you at all
if you're compromised health-wise uh
and or if you're sick of course we
encourage you to stay home and watch
online so
um jack you know a lot of people think
that you must you have a great show by
the way going on here no
this is awesome you must only you and i
could do this
well i'm telling you because i'm telling
you i'm honestly
asking now all the questions i believe
thousands of people
want to ask and i waited for this time
to do that so
people would probably think that with
all the garbage that their governments
and media
fed them throughout the last six months
that you must be
covering up or hiding uh some
thousands of cases of covet that happen
in your church because
of of uh the way you gather in the last
two months or two and a half months
did you have any outbreak in your church
i'm really tempted to answer
the answer is no but
my sarcasm yeah right wants to answer
you
like we've had just as many outbreaks
as 20 000 people did when they protested
on the streets of los angeles
for black lives matter isn't that
amazing by the way we have the same
thing in israel do you
same thing we're the ones that are no
there are
lunatics left progressive ones that are
uh every saturday night they are
protesting out of the prime minister's
office
and they tell us that there is no
contraction of the virus no chance
nothing and but they shut down the
synagogues and the churches
and then we have the same thing but
we're still under the assumption
that there is contraction and they're
hiding it over there
and therefore we are willing to accept
the logic behind
not allowing that many people to worship
you understand
what you just did you change my entire
understand well i kind of guessed that
before but
i needed to hear it from you because
it's your church and it's
this is a local thing by the way i think
it's you you're not a local phenomena
this
is a national phenomenon or maybe
international i don't think there's any
church
around the globe your size that is
meeting the way you meet
um without any unusual case of
at i present i was told by a source in
washington d.c
that in america but i think it's all
around the world
since may 31st in the united states we
are the largest
church meeting in the nation well in
that case
let me break the news to you if it's
true then it's
worldwide because there is no country
on planet earth right now that allows
churches to meet the way you do
and america has the largest
churches that are still in a way
um act you know active during the
the virus their doors are not completely
closed
and so if it's in america then it's all
over the world this is phenomenal that's
why
i needed to ask you those questions
because you know i believe that you've
uh your answers now answered the
to hundreds of thousands of people all
around the world i'm telling you the
truth i
i had those questions myself well and
then let's so look
again we have the right and the
privilege provided by god to lean on the
first amendment but what if we didn't
have the let's pretend we don't have the
freedom yeah let's pretend you
never had it so someone will say for
whatever reasons
it's regardless uh it's illegal to meet
as a church
let's say that let's pretend right now
we're in north korea there's a
contingency of believers in north korea
uh saudi arabia iran
uh nepal india
where it's illegal to meet
yet they meet every sunday they meet
they
they they hide they hide they meet they
meet out in open fields
you know they change locations every
second and they and they take pieces of
scripture
and they they trade it with each other
and they memorize the pages
and someone will say from their ivory
tower of
theoretics you've got to obey the laws
of the land
absolutely i agree until they violate
the laws of god
and and this is the law of god even the
law of love
as we read in the new testament where
paul weighed
out the circumstances and stood firm
on resurrection from the dead which
caught which caused him to get into a
ruckus transported down to caesarea
under arrest
and he he pleaded to rome he's going to
take his case to caesar
he appeals to caesar he used his
political rights
to advance the cause of the gospel and
that's exactly what we're doing i know
civics i know my american rights
and what kills me is that either a
pastors don't know those rights which
they should
or they know them and they're not using
them but what do you say to a
non-american pastor because honestly i
understand first amendment
is a great yeah a great ticket for you
to say
but what if we talk about a church
elsewhere
that first amendment is not there the
law
is prohibiting them from from meeting at
the church so you're saying
church is not only that building you're
saying you can be creative
in doing church like in persecuted uh
chur uh you know person all i'll say
yeah the persecuted church the illegal
church in the world
still meets it still meets yeah it's
now look let's let's pick on our
wonderful friends to the north and i
mean it i love them
and i love their country you do too
we've ministered in canada correct
a lot so in canada
no way okay well in canada what i would
do
is i would gather either very
underground
or very above ground when i say above
ground i would gather together
as a church if the law is six feet apart
that seems to by the way that's not a
law
let's remember they're telling us six
feet apart
so six feet apart let's get out to a
field and and now
i'll preach and you'll be six people
preach you guys look at each other and
give thumbs up from afar
but in some way shape or form so you
will obey
the rules yet still do church if i was a
canadian or a mexican
or ordained that's what i would be doing
so you think uh i can't
look at romans i understand i'm i'm
sorry someone's here in hebrews
yeah i believe i've i'm i did and i'm
doing romans 13.
hebrews 10 12 10 25 says
what does that mean do not forsake the
assembling together
unless yeah i understand that what's
what's the caveat to that yeah but so i
have a question for you
okay so we talked about around the world
you can
you can find you know creative ways to
do church
and still obey the law and you're saying
to me
in america you basically you're saying
to me in america
all churches should be open i mean if i
understand well the first amendment
churches if they open they're still not
breaking those as soon as we found out
that this was not
a uh that this was not as lethal
as the annual flu look so you did look
into the
uh the medical look we watched for 30
days every american had the opportunity
to talk to physicians
and talk to uh political leaders to find
out what's going on now what's going on
we were like this at this church
what what do we know today what's the
information now
i don't know i don't know if it maybe
everybody was doing that we weren't we
couldn't wait
it was not even a question if we were
going to open up i just heard the other
day
from congregants who are coming here
that their church their
pastor said we we will either
open up on easter 2021
oh my or when disneyland opens up
so the the staff asked the disaster okay
why disneyland for crying out loud what
do they know what do they know about
church
his answer was because disney knows how
to handle crowds wow
look i'm sorry i think that's carnal
thinking
and if the holy spirit convicted me that
after 30 days the church was still shut
and there was no clarity from the
experts
some experts said if you wear a mask go
back to work
if you wear a mask live your life then
they said
six feet apart six feet apart well which
one is it
well it's six feet apart some experts
said wear a mask then they said
it's a mask and six feet apart isn't
that interesting we watched that happen
okay and now they're saying that masks
work
and you know they don't do they work if
they work then we don't need
vaccinations
if the mask works then let's go back to
work
if the mask works let's go to church
the masks don't work okay
they don't work it's it's affected for
dust and particles okay fine
but getting back to your question do i
believe every church should be open
in america look i believe
because you have the first amendment i
believe if i was a pastor in nepal
i'd be open they cut your head off for
it
i'd be open we're christians
the preaching of the god i would rather
risk my life like charles spurgeon did
during the bubonic plague or uh the
cholera outbreak or martin luther the
great refuge but you do have
you do have uh it's not like you know
it's killing people yet you do it no you
you know that's killing people
if people are dropping dead i personally
again going back to luther during the
bubonic plague
or how about this how about father
damian in the hawaiian islands
on the island of uh molokai
father damian went to the lepers and
gave them the gospel and loved
them and wrapped their bandages and
stuff and told them about christ
is he insane well if you love your life
then he's insane but if you love people
more than your life
then you're going to go minister to the
leper colony
in molokai for me personally
uh when i became a christian i
understand my bible to say that i've
died and my life is hidden in christ
and that now as a pastor now i've
surrendered all rights
i'm to go where christ takes me and i
answered listen this is going to sound
horrible to people who don't know this
but when the calling of christ is upon
your life if god told me i want you to
go now
leave everything and i want you to go to
iran and stand in the
city center of the run and preach christ
it's going to cost you your life
but i'm calling you to do it i'm to obey
this
and all of us you better listen
carefully that he did tell you that and
then you're gonna do it
yes but if he says it and it's
undeniable what are you gonna absolutely
you could never live with yourself and
if you're living
with you and here's my bro here's where
my heart breaks for my
fellow pastors is yes am i getting
mocked and ridiculed yes
we're also baptizing a thousand people
and we also need a bigger building
we also are giving away bibles to new
converts
and we also have people literally
tithing to this church
from vietnam from australia why because
they're being fed
because they're being open and we're
open and okay
everything that we're enjoying every
pastor wants to have
but they don't want to do you have to
stand yeah they don't want to stand
but they want to enjoy the fruits of it
it's not going to happen i know
you've got to get your foot in the red
sea before it parts you've got to get
your foot in there with joshua
before the jordan parts you can talk and
criticize
all you want no one has any respect for
spectator criticism
it means nothing well i'm done asking
you a question now you can ask me if you
want
you have i don't know anyone in the
world
that has an international teaching
ministry and following
like you do there's nobody it is unique
it is blessed of god
and you know you said it a second ago i
think
you because you get a lot of heat and a
lot of criticism in fact
you can say almost anything a mirror and
there will be those who will take what
you say out of context or they'll want
to
okay and
and with what you're doing i think
there's a a tremendous amount
of people who love you obviously
and there's a handful of people who
might be envious of your
of your calling and your position it's
extremely unique
i've known you how long have i known you
22 years 22 years and that's not 22
years like we talk once
a year this is we are the best of
friends we share each other's life
i look and i say i'm so proud of you and
i've watched your ministry grow
throughout all the years and what hurts
me
is when people say oh you know what amir
believes this
i know you don't well mayor believes
that no you don't know
but uh so what about that well i think
that
uh we've come to a place today
where uh the keyboard cowards are
yeah well they're enjoying their freedom
of hiding behind
a screen and a keyboard and you know
what
every time we take seriously accusations
because
we want to make sure we're not doing the
wrong thing so every
time somebody is accusing us for
something we always ask him for his
phone number so we can
call him and talk about it and they
always run away
of course it will and they will always
talk about you but not to you that's
right it's another telling thing
um and so you know what nobody's perfect
you know you can
stumble and say stuff that might not be
correct but you need to
uh be courageous enough and humble
enough i think to correct yourself when
you do
you make a mistake but for the most part
i think that
a lot of people look just yesterday
i watched a youtube movie that says that
i am behind 9 11.
you yes i am part of the evil country
that perpetrated 9 11 and i knew about
it
beforehand and i never stopped it look
people
are crazy um they they the internet
allows crazy they allow but they but i
don't have a problem with
the world i expect the world not to like
me
in fact we're not to love the world and
we don't have to
want the world to love us that's fine
with me but my biggest
problem is when we have a we have a
saying in the israeli military
uh friendly fire within the tank within
the armored vehicle
when we turn our guns against each other
and that's
the thing that breaks my heart to see
people around
that and by the way for the most part
they know you didn't say what they want
what they say you said but they are
hanging on something that
might sound like what they want to uh go
with
and they will just butcher you you know
what it's
it's like in some ways it's like modern
day news
trump calls it fake news uh you know i'm
so glad he said it
because everybody knew it it's fake news
and we've been
i've been involved in fake news i never
said that i never went there or i didn't
go to that group or i didn't speak at
that conference
but even in christianity i include the
you know look cast the wide net of grace
here
there are people who are the they they
think they've
been called by god to be an assistant to
the holy spirit
church the church police that's that's
good and so they're saying these things
and what's amazing to me is they you
said basically they're down in the
basement they have no church life
you're right they don't go to church
they don't go to church they're very
critical which
immediately places them on the day of
judgment in the world of a pharisee
because jesus says whatever whatever
you're spewing out or whatever you're
saying it's going to be brought back to
you and you think about
uh you know all of these these
things that are being said by people who
either don't know what they're talking
about
they've never asked you this is the
amazing thing is that people don't call
and they say can i ask you
before i before i commit a cosmic crime
and and slander you on the internet
which can never be taken back
before i sin can do can i ask you if
i have this right nobody does that yeah
it's crazy you know
another thing that i noticed and i've
never seen that before maybe i was too
naive or maybe
it wasn't brought to my attention but
there is tons of anti-semitic
content in christian circles in
christian circles
christian people who claim to be
christians are disputing
nazi propaganda yep i'm talk and i'm
you know i call them out and i said
these are fake christians
they are not people that can be raptured
when the day comes because you cannot
love the lord the god of israel and hate
the people of israel at the same time
and you cannot but forget about the jews
you cannot hate anyone that's right you
cannot be a a racist you cannot hate
black people you cannot hate white
people you cannot hate
jewish people or hindu you cannot do
that scripture says how can the love of
god dwell in absolutely
implying it doesn't dwell on you if you
hate so people accuse me for preaching
uh salvation through works
you must accept jesus plus
love israel no loving israel is the
fruit of your salvation it's gonna come
out
exactly you know what's funny it's
amazing for me now look i'm one this is
one reporter's opinion
so i'm just i can only speak from my
experience but it is my experience
before i became a christian i had heard
of a jew i'd never met a jew
i had heard of israel i'd never been
there when i got
saved i got saved at a church who loves
this bible loved this bible pastor chuck
smith taught this bible
and i was shocked to wake up one day i
can't explain this
as as as strange as this sounds i woke
up one day to the realization
wow down at the christian bookstore
there's a star of david with a cross in
the middle
i'm going to buy it i want that i wound
up falling in love
with israel i've never been there before
and i
literally one i remember being jealous
of the jew because i wanted to be one
then i came to romans chapter two
and read that the real jew is one who's
been circumcised of the heart
and then i was satisfied there was this
affinity
toward the jewish people you know me i
love witnessing to the jewish people i
just did that yesterday
and and i love that so for someone to
say yeah you know what
illegitimate nation jews are christ
killers
leave them alone their faith is sealed
they're not
no way the holy spirit yeah oh they are
not jews they're not real jews or hitler
was just a
jew or a rock child or the holocaust was
just something
for them to hide behind this is part of
the i believe it says nazi purple
as far as i'm concerned we might even
have to do another program because we're
running late on time i know this is
going to sound
maybe crazy because i'm still kind of
cope with it coping with it
the scripture says that in the last days
there's going to be
the propagation right the spreading of
doctrines of demons
exactly and i believe this is it you're
right
listen doctrines have i said that i i
have
always believed that that is referring
to cults
aberrant doctrines doctrines that teach
uh something other than scripture jesus
is not
exactly hey you know what yes of course
it's doctrines of demons but
now i'm including more in that
like replacement like like replacement
theology
doctrines of demons listen i'll go so
far to say
that when people are saying things like
socialism
socialism is a man-centric religion i
agree with you i now put
socialism as a demonically
propagated doctrine of demon absolutely
absolutely could it be that
any lie or the propagation of lies
could be doctrines of demons what's the
word doctrine mean
teachings teachings could it be yeah
look could it be could this be a
doctrine
of a demon there's 40 million people in
america
and california 40 million californians
okay there's
there's one there's one tenth
of one percent
of coveted deaths
in california for 40 million people the
flu is more than that
but the fear that it has
caused perpetrated on people and gripped
people to the point that has debilitated
them
there are people who have lost faith in
god because
kovid was is so horrible
i know could that be and could that fall
under
the doctrines of demons because its
result is
fear and debilitating consequences sure
could
it's possible it is it's causing me to
think that the enemy is afoot
because look the fruit of it is churches
are shut
people are losing hope suicides up
spousal abuse child abuse because people
are losing their minds
alcoholism alcoholism and if you want to
look at it from a
geopolitical concern what an amazing way
to destroy
the greatest economy in the world and to
destroy the united states of america
which could never be defeated
militarily but being defeated from
within our economies in peril
the american has turned to be anything
but the land of the brave
and we are no longer free yes it's
remarkable
hey listen thanks for watching and um i
just love the fact that it was personal
and
and i loved how amir turned the table we
had a script
or not i don't think so it went as the
lord would lead very honest
very open that's the friendship we have
together but uh listen thank you
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until next time god bless you guys
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