let's get to our panel now liberal MP
Zoe McKenzie and labor MP Josh Burns
joins us in stepping in for Andrew Chon
this week so Zoe I'll go to you first of
all to get your reply to Jason
CLA the detail luck thereof will that be
damaging to the coalition's
prospects no I don't think so Karen
because Peter and Ted O'Brien have both
said that there will be an expansive
conversation about both our climate and
energy policy over the following weeks
all that Peter has said this week is we
can't see that we're going to get to 43
and we're going to be honest about it
we're not going to be hypocritical we're
not going to make promises off in the
blue we're going to be honest and
realistic about what can actually be
delivered we know that that 43% is
predicated on Renewables at 83% of the
energy Market they're at 40 right now we
can't see how you can realistically do
it and all we're saying is be
honest Josh Burns uh yeah welcome to the
program and you heard your there Jason
saying there needs to be the detail B
yet no no I wouldn't I wouldn't say that
no I disagree with that but anyway on
the cost of living there is pressure on
a lot of people and maybe this message
from from Peter Dutton is going to
resonate right now that people are less
uh committed or concerned on the climate
front when they're struggling to pay the
bills it's bewildering on a number of
fronts kg first of all the Liberal Party
lost I forget how many seats to the last
election because of this sort of insane
climate denial policy um seats like
Goldstein Wentworth kuong North Sydney
waringa I mean one after the other Zoe
Lost colleagues who I'm sure she would
like to have had in the federal
Parliament because a liberal party
refused to have climate policy that was
even you know even a little bit
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um acceptable to the Australian people
you know no one lost their seat at the
last election to someone who was
offering lower climate targets that's
the first point the second point to make
is that climate change and the
opportunities that Australia has to
transition our economy to a low
emissions technology is so important for
our economic prospects climate change
equals jobs and it equals jobs in the
regions it equals jobs on renewable
energy it equals jobs on wind farms jobs
on solar panels jobs on batteries jobs
in critical minerals jobs in all of the
tech technologies that we are looking to
try and create for the future of our
country what Peter Dutton is saying by
not committing to our mission reduction
Target is that he's not committing to
those jobs and he's the Australian
people and the Australian Workforce are
going to miss out because Peter Dutton
is too busy coing up to Barnaby Joyce
and all of the other climate deniers in
the
Nationals one of the uh the members of
the seats you referred to the member for
curtain's going to join me shortly no
doubt got some thoughts on that
particular issue but I want to ask you
about the jobs number Zoe McKenzie are
we seeing here with this jobs number
down for for
May is it the soft Landing possible for
the
economy look the figures are all over
the place we know we've had five
quarters now of negative growth on a per
capita basis so the economy is slowing
down the economy is weak 4% unemployment
still means there's pressure on the RBA
to be managing inflation we're not
getting down like the rest of the
developed world is so pressure remains
on rates if you're already paying
$25,000 more in your morgage you're
already paying 22% more for your eggs
23% more for your cereal 18% more for
your electricity 25% more for your gas
none of this is particularly good news
people need to be in work people need to
get those jobs because they need to be
able to pay the bills the bills are not
going down they keep going in the wrong
direction for the average
Australian and we ask a situation Josh
Burns where there are increasingly many
more Working
Poor well that's why we've put such a
big effort into getting wages moving kg
and the liberal party has opposed each
and every measure that we have put
forward to get wages lifted uh they said
it was going to end the country the
whole world was going to collapse if the
minimum wage increased and it hasn't
it's meant that people who are working
hard have a little bit more at the end
of the week uh we we obviously want to
see people in in good paying jobs and we
want to see people uh in jobs and I
think the the numbers today are
encouraging that there have been an
increase in the number of jobs in our
economy to the tune of a net number of
over 30,000 that's a that's a really
important figure it means 30,000 austral
more than 30,000 Australians are back in
the workforce uh unemployment at a four
is is a really healthy amount obviously
the economy and the economic growth is
something that the Reserve Bank will
look at when making their decisions but
the fact that we have managed the budget
in a responsible way we have delivered
two surpluses uh we're in the process of
delivering the second the liberal party
did not do that in their nine long years
of governing we've we've exercised
Prudence but also ensured that where
where we can give people cost of living
relief to get through these difficult
times and and hopefully see the other
side uh in back when inflation is at a
far more normal level we want to see
people being able to afford the things
that they need live safely and securely
and that's what we're working towards to
ensure that they can keep more of what
they
earn we've only got about a minute left
I do want to get both your thoughts on
this shift to the right uh in Europe in
in France a country you know well Zoe um
where you looking at the prospect of a a
28y old prime minister potentially in
France yeah well they do have a 34 year
old prime minister now in France but
what's interesting as well is that maon
came out last night and gave a 90-minute
press conference in which he said you
know what forget the extreme right
forget the extreme left this is a choice
about the sensible Center so really
recasting the political debate not as
one between left and right anymore but
between what you might call a
responsible parties of government class
and then the rest so it's going to be a
very interesting uh election in a
month's
time and uh Josh it is cost of living
again number one issue and obviously
migration things like that but it's it's
still uh it's a univer univers issue
right now across the globe cost of
living pressures well we are seeing a
major political party in Australia move
towards the the the far right Peter
dutton's refusal to have credible
climate policy to have lower migration
and blame all of the problems in society
on migration are two uh real big pivots
towards the far right so I think it's
not just happening uh in Europe it's
also happening in here in Australia and
if we want moderate sensible governance
then we can't look towards Peter
Dutton Josh Burns Zoe McKenzie thanks
appreciate it we'll talk to you soon