JESSICA TARLOV, WILL CAIN AND
DAGEN.
THIS IS THE "THE FIVE."
THE DEMOCRATS JANUARY 6th
COMMITTEE HOLDING THEIR
ONE-SIDED PRIME TIME HEARINGS
LAST NIGHT.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE CLAIM
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD SPURRED A
MOB OF DOMESTIC ENEMIES TO
ATTACK THE CAPITOL IN AN ATTEMPT
TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION
RESULTS.
FOR MORE, LET’S GO TO CHIEF
CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT CHAD
PERGRAM.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
THE COMMITTEE AIMED TO TIE THE
RIOT TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THE PANEL PLAYED NEW AUDIO AND
VIDEOTAPE OF THOSE CLOSE TO THE
PRESIDENT THAT INCLUDED FORMER
ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR WHO
SAID THERE WAS NO FRAUD IN THE
ELECTION.
WYOMING REPUBLICAN LIZ CHENEY
INVOKED A PAINTING IN THE
CAPITOL THAT SHOWS PRESIDENT
GEORGE WASHINGTON RESIGNING HIS
MILITARY COMMISSION.
CHENEY SAYS FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP DID ALL HE COULD TO STAY
IN OFFICE.
>> WITH THIS NOBLE ACT,
WASHINGTON SET THE INDISPENSABLE
EXAMPLE OF THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER
OF POWER.
WHAT PRESIDENT REAGAN CALLED
NOTHING LESS THAN A MIRACLE.
THE SACRED OBLIGATION TO DEFEND
THIS PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER
HAS BEEN HONORED BY EVERY
AMERICAN PRESIDENT EXCEPT ONE.
>> THERE WAS DRAMATIC TESTIMONY
FROM U.S. CAPITOL POLICE OFFICER
CAROLYN EDWARDS.
SHE SUSTAINED A TRAUMATIC BRAIN
INJURY DEFENDING THE CAPITOL.
>> THERE WERE OFFICERS ON THE
GROUND.
YOU KNOW, THEY WERE BLEEDING.
THEY WERE THROWING UP.
THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD --
I MEAN, I SAW FRIENDS WITH BLOOD
ALL OVER THEIR FACES.
I WAS SLIPPING IN PEOPLE’S
BLOOD.
>> HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI
REJECTED THE PICKS OF HOUSE
MINORITY LEADER KEVIN McCARTHY
TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE, SO
THERE’S TWO GOP MEMBERS ON THE
PANEL OKAYED BY PELOSI.
REPUBLICANS ASSERT THE PANEL
LACKS LEGITIMACY.
>> THIS IS THEIR DESPERATE
ATTEMPT TO TRY TO REVISE
SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
INVESTIGATED BY THE SENATE.
THEY DIDN’T HAVE ANYBODY COMING
IN TO CHALLENGE WHY THE SPEAKER
DIDN’T TAKE APPROPRIATE SECURITY
MEASURES.
>> THE PANEL WANTS TO SHOW THE
PUBLIC THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT
TRIED TO DELAY CERTIFICATION OF
THE ELECTION WITH THE RIOT.
THREE HEARINGS NEXT WEEK THAT
WASHINGTON DEMOCRAT JAYAPAL
DOUBTS THE COMMITTEE WILL SWAY
THE GOP.
BACK TO YOU.
>> Jeanine: THANKS, CHAD.
REPUBLICANS ARE HITTING BACK,
TEARING TO THE PUBLICIZED
HEARINGS AS A CIRCUS MEANT TO
DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION’S NUMEROUS
PROBLEMS.
>> ALL THEY’RE DOING IS TRY TO
PAINT A NEW POLITICAL NARRATIVE
THAT VOTERS NEED TO THINK ABOUT
IN NOVEMBER.
THE DEMOCRAT AGENDA HAS FAILED.
>> I THINK THE COUNTRY SEES THAT
IT’S A PARTISAN POLITICAL
COMMITTEE THAT THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON A LOT OF
OTHER ISSUES.
>> LAST NIGHT’S HEARING WAS A
PRIME TIME DUD.
NOTHING CAME OUT OF IT.
DIDN’T CHANGE ANYBODY’S MIND.
THEY WANT TO THROW DONALD TRUMP
IN JAIL.
THEY CAN’T GET THAT DONE, THEY
WANT TO PREVENT HIS NAME FROM
APPEARING ON THE BALLOT.
IT’S NOT ABOUT INVESTIGATING
JANUARY 6.
>> Jeanine: I’LL START WITH YOU.
THE CLAIM THAT NOTHING NEW WAS
BROUGHT OUT LAST NIGHT.
THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE NEW ED,
NEW INFORMATION.
WHAT NEW DID WE LEARN LAST
NIGHT?
>> NOTHING BECAUSE IT’S NOT AN
HONEST PURSUIT OF THE TRUTH.
I THINK EVERYONE WHO WAS BEING
HONEST CAN LOOK AT JANUARY 6 AND
SAY IT WAS A SHAMEFUL DAY IN
PART AS A RIOT ENSUED AT THE
CAPITOL.
I DON’T WANT TO STEAL ANY
TALKING POINTS.
WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS OFFSET AND
I HAD A NICE CONVERSATION WITH
SEAN ABOUT THE TRUE NATURE OF
THIS SHOW TRIAL.
WHETHER OR NOT IT’S AN HONEST
PURSUIT OF THE TRUTH.
I’LL LEAVE IT TO SEAN WHO SERVED
IN CONGRESS ON HOW THIS IS SET
ALL UP TO BE A REALITY SHOW.
IF YOU WERE LOOKING TO SAY WHAT
IS A THREAT TODAY TO OUR
COUNTRY, YOU’D TALK ABOUT THE
ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF A
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.
YOU’D TALK ABOUT ANOTHER TARGET
BY A GROUP CALLED RUTH SENT US.
IN FACT, SOMETHING THAT WE’RE
FOCUSING ON THAT HAPPENED 17
MONTHS AGO, ASKS US IS THIS AN
HONEST PURSUIT OF THE TRUTH?
>> Jeanine: DAGEN, THE FBI NEW
THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A
VERY LARGE PROTEST.
THEY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME BUT DID
NOTHING IN TERMS OF HEIGHTENED
SECURITY.
THEY CLAIM IT WAS AN
INTELLIGENCE FAILURE.
AUGUST 21, CURIOUSLY, THE FBI
HAD A REPORT THAT THERE WAS
SCANT EVIDENCE THAT THE CAPITOL
ATTACK WAS ORGANIZED TO OVERTURN
THE ELECTION AS OPPOSED TO JUST
BEING A PROTEST.
SO THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO
PROBLEM HAD THERE BEEN
HEIGHTENED SECURITY.
>> WE’VE GOT FIVE MORE OF THESE
SHEARINGS.
MAYBE THAT COMES OUT, MAYBE IT
DOESN’T.
IT’S VERY CLEAR GIVEN THE WHY
NOW OF ALL OF THIS.
IT’S TOO MAYBE PREVENT THE GROSS
SHELLACKING THAT THE DEMOCRATS
WILL GET IN NOVEMBER.
MAYBE IT WON’T BE AS BAD.
YOU SAID REALITY SHOW.
I’M A GRACIOUS CONSUMER OF
REALITY TELEVISION.
THAT ABC NEWS DUDE THAT THEY
BROUGHT IN, HE’S NOT PUTTING
LAST NIGHT ON HIS RESUME.
HE HAD LIZ CHENEY TALKING OVER
GRAPHICS AND PHOTOS AND TOSSING
TO VIDEO.
IT WAS INTENSELY BORING.
AND THEN YOU ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE
SOMEBODY LIKABLE, RELATABLE WHO
IS FIERCE IN A REALITY SHOW
CAST?
WHO DO WE HAVE ON THAT PANEL?
JAMIE RASKIN?
WE WANT TO WATCH HIM?
HE WANTED TO GET RID OF THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE WHEN AL GORE
LOST OR MY PERSONAL FAVORITE,
ADAM SCHIFF.
HE PEDALLED THE COLLUSION THEORY
FOR SO MANY YEARS AND TALKED
ABOUT THERE’S MORE THAN
CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN PLAIN
SIGHT OF THE RUSSIA COLLUSION HOAX.
I WOULD RATHER BE LOCKED IN A
PORT A JOHN TO HAVE TO WATCH
ADAM SCHIFF.
>> Jeanine: EVEN JOE BIDEN
DIDN’T WATCH LAST NIGHT.
BUT SEAN, ACTUALLY WE HAVE
SOUND.
LET’S LISTEN.
>> THE INSURRECTION ON JANUARY 6
IS A BRUTAL ASAULTED ON OUR
DEMOCRACY, BRUTAL ATTACK ON LAW
ENFORCEMENT, SOME LOSING THEIR
LIVES.
WE HEARD ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT.
WE CAN UNITE AND DEFEND THIS
NATION, DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN,
ALLOW NO ONE TO PLACE A DAGGER
AT THE THROAT OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
THAT’S WHAT THOSE HEARINGS ARE
ABOUT.
I DIDN’T GET TO WATCH THEM.
I WAS DOING OTHER BUSINESS.
BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, THERE WAS A
LOT GOING ON.
>> Jeanine: YEP, HE DIDN’T GET
TO WATCH IT.
FORMER CONGRESSMAN SEAN DUFFY,
YOU KNOW, NANCY PELOSI’S NAME
HAS BEEN THROWN AROUND A LOT.
THAT SHE DIDN’T APPROVE OR SHE
KNEW AHEAD OF TIME.
THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS WHY
WASN’T NANCY PELOSI CALLED AS A
WITNESS?
WHAT DID SHE KNOW, WHEN DID SHE
KNOW IT?
WE KNOW SHE’S IN CHARGE OF
SECURITY.
AFTER ALL, SHE BROUGHT IN THE
NATIONAL GUARD.
SHE ULTIMATELY PUT A METAL
DETACTERS BUT NOT FOR THAT.
>> I’LL GIVE YOU THE ANSWER TO
THAT.
I DID REALITY TV.
I WAS ON THE REAL WORLD ON MTV.
>> YOU WEREN’T THE LIKABLE
RELATABLE GUY?
>> I WAS NOT.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU CAN
EDIT ANYTHING YOU WANT AND MAKE
PEOPLE BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT IN
THE EDIT BAY.
HERE YOU HAVE NANCY PELOSI THAT
SAYS I’M GOING TO EDIT THIS
PRODUCTION AND PRESENT IT TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
BY THE WAY, THE THEORY OF MY
CASE, THE THEORY OF JANUARY 6 IS
SO WEAK THAT I CAN’T ALLOW JIM
JORDAN AND BE THERE AND LOOK FOR
EVIDENCE.
WE CAN’T GET THE VIDEOTAPE FROM
THE CONGRESS.
WE DON’T KNOW WHAT INVOLVEMENT
LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD.
WE’RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT
WHETHER DONALD TRUMP AUTHORIZED
THE NATIONAL GUARD TO PROTECT
THE PLACE THAT HE ALLEGEDLY
WANTED AN INSURRECTION.
WE HAVE TRIALS IN COURTROOMS.
THIS IS A SHOW TRIAL.
WE DON’T HAVE SHOW TRIALS IN
AMERICA WHERE YOU TRAY TO
CONVINCE PEOPLE IN THE COURT OF
PUBLIC OPINION.
IF WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
OVERTHROWING AN ELECTION, WHY
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RUSSIA
COLLUSION?
YOU HAD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND THE MEDIA
WORKING TOGETHER TO OVERTHROW
DONALD TRUMP.
FOUR YEARS, WALL-TO-WALL
COVERAGE.
TWO IMPEACHMENTS WHERE THEY
TRIED TO UNDO THE 2016 ELECTION.
TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY COMING
INTO THE CAPITOL.
THIS WAS CHILD’S PLAY COMPARED
TO THE ORCHESTRATION OF RUSSIA
COLLUSION.
WHY AREN’T WE HAVING THAT
HEARING?
>> Jeanine: OKAY.
JESSICA, WE’RE GOING TO COME TO
YOU ON THIS.
I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
THE CHAIR, BENNIE THOMPSON, SAYS
THAT THE JOB OF THE JANUARY 6th
COMMITTEE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY PUT TOGETHER THE EVIDENCE
AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO
CONGRESS.
IT’S NOT THEIR JOB TO PROSECUTE.
HE SAID I HOPE THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL IS LISTENING AND I HOPE
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IF HE WANTS
EVIDENCE, WE’LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE
IT TO HIM.
HE SAID THAT DONALD TRUMP
PROBABLY COMMITTED A CRIME AND
THE JUDGE IS AN OBAMA APPOINTED
JUDGE AND HE WAS ONLY THERE TO
LOOK AT DISCOVERY.
SOUNDS ONE-SIDED.
TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.
>> I THINK BASICALLY THE
OPPOSITE OF WHAT EVERYONE HAS
SAID SO FAR ON THIS TABLE.
I WAS ON AIR LAST NIGHT WITH
BRET AND MARTHA TO DISCUSS THIS
THIS.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS A LOT OF NEW
INFORMATION.
EVERYBODY SEEMS TO AGREE WITH
THAT RIGHT AND LEFT PEOPLE ARE
COMMENTING.
HERE’S SOME THINGS THAT ARE NEW.
DONALD TRUMP KNEW THAT HE LOST
THE ELECTION.
HE KNEW IT LOST IT BECAUSE BILL
BARR TOLD HIM HE LOST IT.
IF YOU SAW HIS TESTIMONY, IT WAS
ANIMATED.
HE USED THE B.S. WORD.
HE SAID ENOUGH WITH THIS.
IVANKA TRUCK, HIS DAUGHTER, SHE
KNEW HE LOST THE ELECTION
BECAUSE SHE SAID I TRUSTED A.G.
BARR ON THIS.
JASON MILLER, 1 OF HIS MOST
TRUSTED AIDES ALSO TESTIFIED
THAT HE KNEW HE LOST THE
ELECTION.
A CAMPAIGN LAWYER ALSO KNEW THAT
HE LOST THE ELECTION AND
TESTIFIED TO THAT.
THAT IS NEW INFORMATION.
DONALD TRUMP WAS -- YOU NEVER
SAW A VIDEO --
>> Jeanine: A VIDEO AS OPPOSED
TO REPORTS.
>> YOU KNEW THAT IVANKA TRUMP
AGREED WITH BILL BARR AND NOT
HER FATHER?
YOU KNEW ABOUT YEAH SON MILLER?
YOU KNOW THE GOP CONGRESSMEN
ASKED FOR PARDONS BECAUSE THEY
KNEW THAT THEY WOULD BE IN
TROUBLE.
DID YOU KNOW THAT?
>> Jeanine: WHO ARE THEY?
SCOTT PERRY.
THAT’S THE ONE NAME THAT THEY
GAVE SO FAR.
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE DIDN’T
KNOW IF IT WAS A BAD THING A IF
MIKE PENCE GOT HANGED.
THAT’S A BIG DEAL.
THERE’S A SEVEN-POINT PLAN -- I
THOUGHT LIZ CHENEY DID A GOOD
JOB.
I DON’T KNOW IF SHE’S A
LAWYER --
>> THAT’S THE PROBLEM.
IT WAS PRIME TIME.
>> THIS IS NOT MEANT TO
ENTERTAIN YOU LIKES DESPERATE
HOUSE WIVES.
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO TELL YOU
ABOUT SOMETHING --
>> WHY DID THEY HIRE PRODUCERS
FROM ABC NEWS?
TO GIVE IT PIZZAZZ.
>> I’M SORRY --
>> THAT DONALD TRUMP SPREAD
LINES.
WE KNOW THAT.
WE SAW THE FOOTAGE OF HIM SAYING
LET’S HOPE MIKE PENCE COMES
THROUGH FOR US.
SPREADING LIES AND THE ELECTION.
HE HAD A PLAN TO OUST THE A.G.
THAT A.G. WILL BE TESTIFYING
NEXT WEEK.
CORRUPT PRESSURE ON MIKE PENCE.
MIKE PENCE LAST TALKED ABOUT
THAT DIRECTLY.
CORRUPT PRESSURE ON STATE
OFFICIALS.
NOW WE KNOW CLARENCE THOMAS’
WIFE WAS IN ON IT.
SHE CALLED 29 INDIVIDUAL ARIZONA
OFFICIALS AND ASKED THEM TO
SUPPORT STATE ELECTORS TO
OVERTURN THE RESULTS THERE.
THERE WAS THE FALSE ELECTOR’S
PLOT, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT.
HE SUMMONED THE MOB.
YOU SAW HIM CALLING IT THERE.
WE KNOW WHAT ROLE THE OATH
KEEPERS --
>> Jeanine: HE SUMMONED THE MOB?
>> YES.
THERE’S A STOP THE STEAL RALLY.
I -- HE IGNORED PLEAS FOR HELP.
THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES KNEW THAT THE PRESIDENT
WOULD NOT HELP HIM.
HE WAS COMMUNICATING WITH NANCY
PELOSI, WITH GENERAL MILLEY --
>> Jeanine: WHY DIDN’T NANCY
PELOSI ALLOW THE NATIONAL GUARD?
THAT IS A SETUP.
>> THIS IS CRAZY THAT YOU THINK
NANCY PELOSI WAS THE ONE THAT
WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT
HAPPENED THAT DAY.
>> Jeanine: WHY DIDN’T SHE ALLOW
THE NATIONAL GUARD OUT?
HAS SHE TESTIFIED?
>> I DON’T KNOW.
>> Jeanine: SHE HAS NOT.
>> AND SHE WON’T, BY THE WAY.
>> GENERAL MILLEY TESTIFIED --
>> Jeanine: COMING UN, PRESIDENT