we would have better communication with
Jeff if we write letters and send them
via we might write back we might have to
record this series there we go
hey it's thinking about it now it's
about bringing again hold on we might be
live
I think we're live jazz hands jazz hands
jazz hands for luck okay we're not
buffering on my end
no I think you're alive give it five
minutes
I think we're don't don't you dare you
know suited to crack up with the first
beer wow it's a big leg yeah okay well
we'll go with this so well I've got a
stream up I'm gonna let you guys know
how pissed off I am on my internet
service provider okay so this is an
ongoing saga that started what two
months ago longer than that probably
even longer than that so my internet
connection at my home has been
inconsistent we'll call it for the last
two months they'll get it working and
then it drops again then they'll get it
working then it drops again what I'm
supposed to be getting is gig service
down and 30 megabit up and I pay a
premium for that 30 megabit up because I
enjoy streaming to all you fine folks
well some of you are fine on oil yeah
anyway so they were out right around six
weeks ago or so and they said oh you
have some really old coax cable from the
mid-80s running to your house and I said
well that's weird because my house was
built in 98 they said well they use some
old cable off the back of the truck
thing so they sent a crew out they dug
me a brand new line from the cable box
that's sitting in my yard board it under
my driveway ran it up to my house and
then ran a new line from from that
junction there up into my cable modem
direct so there's literally nothing
between my there's no splitters there
there's nothing between my cable modem
and the cable box in my front yard that
solved the issue for one week yeah it
was the one week I wasn't on yeah and
then I was a great stream then I come on
the following week later and I've had
issues streaming the last three weeks
yeah solid so they were actually just
out about an hour and a half
ago the guy came out and opened the
cable box again and all three of the
junctions that go to the split point at
the cable box were all broken and so
when they replaced my line they didn't
replace those properly and so he
realized all new cables for everyone
he added little dog tails to him because
they had a real fat connection going in
well when the cable box closed it was
pushing on those and bending the cable
so he put a little dog tails on him to
make them actually close so fix that
into things the brand-new cable but they
just had run me had gotten wet at some
point and was already corroded so we had
to cut that and put a new cap on that
one as well they get to my house
the one of the lines that they ran
coming out of the ground and into and
into a little coupler that cable was
frayed and split and nicked and just in
terrible condition it's like brand-new
brand-new brand-new cable are you sure
they didn't pick it off some back of the
truck from me a grab that it would know
it was rg6 cable it was a new cable and
it was a new splice they were new ends
on it on the back of it but he used the
crappy slice of cable so he replaced
that went up to to the inside and they
had improperly terminated the the wall
jack as well so he replaced that one so
it's like okay at this point I can tell
you there's nothing wrong with the line
from your house to the Kim or to the to
the cable box I said okay good he goes
the bad news is you're still getting a
lot of noise and it's not on this local
node so he unplugged all of my
neighbor's connections and unplugged my
connection and there were still being
noise being generated from that how
don't know but he goes sometimes it's a
signal that's coming back and there's
interference and whatnot it's beyond me
so right now they have complaining is
TCP self-corrects itself TCP connection
self-correct and even a lot of streaming
services will self-correct YouTube will
buffer things like that what happens
when I'm streaming is it's a UDP stream
I'm just slinging packets at YouTube and
it grabs what it can yeah which is why
sometimes in my stream there will be
like a 20-second drop I'm probably the
only one experiment when this happens I
know this is beyond my local connect
now but I would like some communication
so I can test a before in and after yeah
and let you know if it's fixed yeah you
are getting three the other days yeah
yeah well what's funny is I get the I
have the exact opposite problem we have
the same Internet company but as exact
kabsa I'm actually paying for only 10 up
yeah I'm getting look we just dropped 30
seconds of my stream geez yep but I'm
getting like 12 or 15 but I'm paying for
a gig two down and I'm only getting like
three to five okay so I am locally
recording the stream I will likely
reupload it when I'm done just so you
all know so we'll try to stay live as
long as we can bare without if you want
if you are live and there's a bunch of
skipping there's gonna be bonus content
for you that's right there's later
there's incentive to watch it again yes
oh man you know what this sounds like
though sounds like I need a special
these are very special beers these are
brought to you by one of our very are
actually just very own are you're
claiming my success I know Jeff's
patreon so funky monkey from Ireland
actually said he came over and he was
actually flying over for I think he said
it was quick Conor or it wasn't quite
common it was it was a conference in
Vegas last weekend there was quite con
there was something going on in Vegas
and there was also Def Con down in San
Diego yeah so he was he was in Vegas so
one of our guy one of my patreon was at
Def Con another was that San Francisco
and I was in Texas yeah quit con so so
he shipped us over so some beers from
Ireland as he flew over so we he
smuggled them in actually yeah you
literally smuggled these beers in so we
have our brothers brewing Mad Hatter
double IPA we have headband by verdant
brewing this is a pale ale and I think
we have a the wall another another
double IPA so we got to double up easy
I'm on board get me a glass sir and
Regan sends two dollars best
non-alcoholic beverage why would I want
a non-alcoholic beverage no virgin gin
and tonic yeah
oh he wants recommendation on best
non-alcoholic um soda I kind of like a
Shirley Temple you do the sweet 7up and
78 grenadine you can do that
I've done the pineapple juice orange
juice and just a splash of grenadine
also makes a nice little yeah it
received drinkable yeah
all right the problem is for me I got
really into these flavored waters the
oil yeah essential water flavor I'm
really into this and I really like the
coconut one right now so I really like
that's very refreshing for me and the
thing is once you start drinking those
every other soft drink tastes like syrup
yeah exactly and that's kind of like
when you're saying is like a Trinity
everything's tasting too sweet from you
yeah
so what do you want to try oh let's see
I think I think these are both same ABV
on the others you're both 8% this is a
5% and this one's a retail this is just
a pale ale but Pale Ale just sent well
it says payout but it might have we
Citra mosaic Columbus and Chinook hops
which is interesting because three of
those come from work yeah so yeah I did
not have time to research any of these
they came in the mail and then I had to
go right away so I just pop them in my
fridge in there a bit cool yeah because
uh Citra mosaic and Chinook are all
organ oh that's funny
I wouldn't have fresh those hops are
yeah don't know but let's go with this
one's going Island that's fine
I brought three cuz I figure they're
only a pint apiece yep we'll need a bit
so but as you're pouring that how about
I get into an article's absolutely yeah
fine so it's kind of interesting with
the craft brewery industry we've always
thought that like Sierra Nevada dogfish
Head they're all the big players now
well it actually turns out our Bush is
actually kicking some butt hasn't been
buying more than we thought that yeah
they bought so many crapper outs that's
pretty close I got a lot more head yeah
yeah you have a lot more body yeah
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cheater that's a finger anyways
anheuser-busch has basically bought in
so many craft breweries that they now
are the largest distributor okay so yeah
I know
not very much it's not by much
Sierra Nevada and was it the Boston
berry and Boston lager Boston lager uh
Sam Sam Sam Adams are usually the top
two craft brewery even though they're
slightly own but they're not but they're
still majority craft you okay it is a
yeah it's a finger
sorry I'm up a little higher ed Ehlinger
smells good smells very citrusy yes
that's good I like it very northwestern
it is a very northwestern this tastes
like a local beer you know that's good
you know I really I think the body of
this is probably comes to them a lot
easier with that nice hard water oh yeah
totally in Ireland and yeah we're having
to put a bunch of chemicals in there but
uh out of my house I got totally hard
water but yeah I think they're at uh or
was it I thought it was one point one
hundred one hundred and seven million
versus is this the same this is the same
article yeah I swear but anyway this is
the one you sent me yeah okay okay yeah
yeah here it is here yeah anheuser-busch
has produced one hundred and seven point
three million where Sierra Nevada did a
hundred point seven million yeah in
sales so they're not too far off and
Boston Bruin was right behind him at
ninety nine ninety four so yeah it's
it's just very interesting but that
actually made me think of like you know
selling out and you know breweries that
sell out like Elysian and
Island mm-hmm but this article talked
about like goose islands iepa now is
like the standalone that's the co2 IPA
through the old country I have some in
my garage if you want it's it's not bad
it's good it's good
but and then they also talked how
Elysian us brand-new and they were still
craft owned but now because they're so
because yellow believe they got me they
got bought out in 2013
yeah so there and they weren't even that
big at the time when they got bought out
em hmm I mean they were only Oregon
Washington in some California yeah so
that was a an interesting interesting
little article that to read that
anheuser-busch is beating out all these
craft breweries yeah it's and you know
it's not necessarily a bad thing
I was thinking about this when I read
that article that's uh yes a large
company is buying these beers yes we
talked about the quality of craft beer
when they're bought out by an
anheuser-busch RA a Miller Coors or
whatever all that the quality kind of
does this yeah they're bottom stuff gets
a little higher because they have to be
able to sell it and their top stuff gets
a little bit lower
yeah but that's not to say that they're
producing bad beer Goose Island still
produces some of my favorite beers that
are oh yeah they they still enjoyed as a
leisure now yeah I love space dust I
love they've got the winter frost oh
yeah fantastic beers and and as long as
anheuser-busch is allowing these
breweries to still independently create
beers and and still do some
experimentations what's the Waldo yeah
yeah oh gosh as I see it now Sierra
Nevada Lagunitas like neat isn't it yeah
what Lagunitas is still pumping out very
very unique beers yeah and and seasonal
beers and experimental beers and they're
so allowed to do that you don't know
they're owned by by anheuser-busch ya
know so it's very yeah it seems to me
that their their core stuff kind of
quality goes down because it has to be
mass-produced so much but as long as the
big company allows them to do their
unique stuff it seems that the unique
stuff still stays very unique and they
get access to some more we
stuff right I'm like you're saying goo
Sheldon so does the Bourbon County brand
stouts and they're fantastic arena and
we've also talked about Deschutes here
in Bend opening up a brewery in Virginia
yeah they're gonna be producing
different beer and and they're starting
to nationally and globally distribute
that beer here now they started in Bend
and their headquarters is in been their
quality is gonna do this even though
they're not owned by yeah exactly
you're just having to spend much more
money like you have to normalize your
product yes exactly so like I said it's
not a bad thing no it's not a bad thing
one of the things I do enjoy those like
when you're with friends
I do love chatting with people and
talking to people and a lot of us like
me Steve you we use untappd a lot of
times to sit there and check in Pierce I
mean maybe I'm gonna check these three
in them but and untappd I've been around
since untap was just you know a very
baby
yeah app and everything like that but
now they're expanding trying to be some
a bit bigger adding more features all
the time and they've actually added now
basically direct message chat to your
friends and she's like right to get that
in there we were talking about trying to
make this show a little more smoothly I
do this beautifully done and I know he's
sitting in the car on the way over okay
I got it I'll talk about friends and
then I'll talk about beer and then
social network screw the rest of this
segment up but ya know I'm tapped
actually they they got bata I don't
remember the company but it was a wine
company and they were the ones that came
up with the whole bar code system mm-hmm
and they bought out untapped and now on
tap is this huge huge you know beer
Empire app thing but the chat thing I'm
not too really I don't really care about
that because it's like the tenth app I
have to chat with my friends and you
know the ten friends that I do chat with
they're all the same you Jeff Rhett you
know Dan
but yeah actually some of the other cool
thing was they do a translation an
automatic translation so these beers and
there was a couple of beers
had in German and German beers and
Spanish beers that in French I couldn't
read them I had some friends over at
Hopsin bros they're from Quebec and all
the beers were in French and then when I
went and looked it up there was a French
description so I had to google it and
put it in google translator yeah but now
untappd will automatically translate to
the English setting or whatever language
setting you set on that actually I was
more impressed with that
then the the chat feature they also do
the fingerprint unlock now and the
facial recognition unlocked so on iOS
and Android
yes untappd is trying to add a bunch of
features to their apps yep so I got
another $2 donation from Regan one of my
patreon backers um and you hear me
patreon a lot it's not because I make a
lot of money on there it's because I
like forming that community I like
forming that's a great community of
enthusiasts who like what I'm producing
and have some semblance of ownership
over the community a couple of my met in
person I met I think three you guys down
at QuakeCon this weekend and that was an
absolutely great time but Regan one of
the the things I talked about on the in
my Patriot pimping out is hey get billed
advice get ask questions that's what
we're here for Regan was asking this
week about upgrading to a Zeon 1240
versus us I five forty four forty and is
that a good way to go and we advised him
it's a good way to go to dollars thanks
for the advice to a forty much faster
yeah direct access to to myself John's
ready yeah and then a bunch of other
people on there yeah we're not the only
ones that sit there and ask advice and
we've we've got a couple 3d printer and
C&C guys on there we've got it
it really is forming into a really
really awesome community yeah it's
really nice and we got four different
channels so I like this group so you you
stay in that group so it's really easy
we have a group now who's gaming every
single Saturday yeah exactly
I know I'm like mowing my lawn hey who's
gaming my lawn guy guys come on
totally soon we're gonna have an
untapped chat yep oh yeah I'm afraid a
couple people on untappd and they're
like hey anyone on there's like oh yeah
join us and we are swapping beers back
and forth so like hey you try this one
this is in your local area yeah so it's
pretty fun you a sports fan Jeff
absolutely I look pretty I'm not a huge
sports fan but I recently started liking
sports I really got my life into
football but she only likes the fourth
quarter yeah she doesn't like and she's
like I don't care about tell me what's
going on the fourth quarter oh is it a
close game and then she'll sit and watch
yeah but you know she's she's a she's a
Packers fan
hey and I don't know what you know it's
funny
she became a Packers fan and she's like
I only like it because I like those
commercials Aaron Rodgers does yeah so
this is a better store better start the
the moment she declared it was the game
that he broke his arm just called his
collarbone yeah that that game she's
like yeah I just look at guy and she did
I was like can you be a Patriots fan
please no no she can stay a Packers fan
she can stay a Packers fan so you know I
was really happy that she wasn't a
Browns fan I don't know anyone that's a
Browns fan actually I know it has this
huge cult following a long time ago yeah
and it has I mean it's been so bad for
the Browns especially last night I don't
think they want a single go they didn't
blood away finally my lions are not
alone in that right it's been it's been
so hard on the Browns that Budweiser is
actually stepped in to incentivize fans
and the team with free beer this is
hilarious it's the free beer so they
have station I think was 200 of these
electronic coolers full of Budweiser
bottoms most of them are at the Coliseum
but they're all electronically locked
and they're saving that if the moment
the Browns win a game any game they will
automatically all be unlocked for free
beer yeah for anyone around there
obviously I'm sure they're all around
you know 21 people that card in there
isn't
but you would hell you would hook my
it's Cleveland and his Budweiser who
care this is water but I thought that
was kind of a cool thing but yeah good
for Budweiser and the Browns I mean it
probably didn't cost a whole lot to do
yeah so yeah you like that segue dude
that's a good that was a good thing
you're getting better at that the Lions
should do it because the water in
Michigan sucks actually another article
I was gonna post was Budweiser released
they do an NFL can and the e Eagles are
the only one to get a specially fully
designed can this year oh really
yeah they're getting and they're
changing the color too so they get a
brand new color and it's gonna have the
Eagle logo on it and they're probably
gonna suck this year so it doesn't
really better just the way it goes
they got both our quarterbacks backwards
yeah so who's gonna play though which
one it doesn't matter
last year it didn't matter I don't think
I think last year was a fluke Carson
Carson Wentz or Nick Foles I think last
year was a fluke that this is an odd
phrase to say if you're if you're a
football fan nothing disparaging against
Nick Foles he was a great quarterback at
Arizona he's a great quarterback in the
NFL Nick Foles Super Bowl MVP it's just
a weird
Fross barely got I mean I don't know he
didn't do have to work well Carson Wentz
got hurt what was that in game 14 or
yeah and there were oh they were already
in the playoffs they were already in the
first raid but then he but then he yeah
but he took him there and he's like
right but the thing is the quarterback
doesn't have to win the game for you he
just has to not and as my eyes and not
mess up yeah their defense one thing
defense was insane their defense won by
everything but it's such an odd phrase
Nick Foles
Super Bowl MVP all right
hey look at that we finished our beer
during the beard new demerit new so
another perfect segue to crack another
beer and get into tech all right what
devil would you like who
yeah I really like the art I really like
the name yeah oh the wall let's go with
the wall the wall the wall is it not
made in Berlin right I'm sure it's made
in Ireland you know what I really like
that that's it it tells you this the
temperature oh that's in annex Celsius
in Celsius so yeah our best beer best
served around 8 degrees which is 45 I
think it's a little warm
where just because I couldn't get it to
cold
Simcoe cryo hops cascade it's right
again
juicy Columbus and Cascade hops with the
late edition of Osaka hmm let's go with
the wall all right new glasses so it was
so funny my brother went to to Greece
and he went to this little tiny island
I'm trying to show for you this time
okay and they were so they're like so
into him he's like yeah I'm a home
brewer look Wow you know home brewers we
don't get too many often are those
people often like oh yeah we just made
this specialty beer we exotic hops
they're from Oregon yeah yeah
and it was just will lament hops but
again over there it's a go over yeah
they're really College exotic often we
had to pay for the import right and it's
our best beer yet he's like so I need to
post some pictures some time because
some when I take the back road to work I
Drive by 200-acre
and it smells amazing this time P here
cuz we're getting close to harvest
season oh yeah I know it's like like
four or five weeks away
yeah yeah yeah mmm there's a sweet note
in that that I'm trying there it is it's
almost like it's got the citrus I almost
want to come up like a marshmallow
kind of smell I almost get it like a
Belgian Eve bubblegum mmm bubblegum
bubblegum that's it that's it like it's
a sweet yes sweet especially when you
drink it yeah bubblegum like the the
pink when you unwrap it the bubble
issues a bubble yeah yeah yeah well then
it has this bittering flavor at the back
yeah that is a very unique beer that is
very unique it's good sometimes when I
go that's that's very unique that that
means I'm like leaning towards not like
no this is a good beer no it's a good
drinkable beer but it has complexity to
it yeah I I enjoyed digging through the
beer and yeah hmm it's got some flavors
in there that I'm not used to tasting
together exactly and I'm going to enjoy
continually drink of this and in the
back of my head think of it what does
this taste like now what does this taste
I want to chew right now yes yeah not
tobacco chew but yeah I want to choose
some public health so malicious yeah
yeah you know and then bubblicious is
pretty cheap right and you know if you
if you don't have a whole lot of money
if you invested it see I'm trying to do
that this beers great I want to chew on
this beer so they imported some Oregon
hops it probably cost him a pretty penny
and and and man like pretty coin pretty
coin and and a lot of coin and if they
invested that in Bitcoin boy I hope they
got out of that early years were better
than mine yeah see I was trying to work
it I'm trying to work the crowd
so Bitcoin in aetherium are both yeah
they're not rapping like flawed I'm not
doing well so back in January at the
peak of the the cryptocurrency market
both aetherium and Bitcoin peaked at 20
records highs Bitcoin peaked around
nineteen thousand dollars each and
aetherium peaked at around twelve
hundred dollars that same week today
Bitcoin is a little under $6,000
it dropped to five and barely recovering
early recovered this is X by the end of
the day yeah just over six at the at the
time of writing and this was yesterday
yeah yesterday evening the theory M is
that a nine-month low down to two
hundred and fifty six dollars from its
high of twelve hundred
oh my god so it's down to almost 1/6 of
it so no valid hit in eight months it
dropped what sixty sixty percent sixty
five percent I think yeah yeah ouch and
even then oh wait we even talked about
this back in January of it being at 19
also that dropped to ten mm-hmm and yeah
February it fell like a stone yeah I
felt like a stone and then you are
calling it of all you can start seeing
all of the graphics cards in the use
market were starting to level out and
then prices are starting to drive around
March they leveled out right around
April I started seeing a couple on store
show yeah again not still not at at
retail prices but they were in stock
yeah finally again and then in May it's
like a couple more and some of the
prices are starting to drop and then by
June it was like boom I can go buy a ten
sixty off the shelf for retail
oh yeah I remember a patron were like I
can go get this car for 120 right now
right right I I will say during that
time I did buy a couple graphics cards I
bought one when I did my I should you
buy a crypto miners yeah I was that that
that I I paid three hundred dollars out
of my own cash to buy an Rx 588 gig that
had been mined on for six months to do
that video and and that was specifically
for the purpose of is there any
degradation in performance and I knew
the answer the answer is no but I had to
have a card to prove it yeah and so that
video cost me $300 of it but I still use
the card today well I didn't you know
that might be the guy's only profit
right yeah if you like I sold my car
especially if he only mined on us for
six months because he just got into that
game in November or October last year he
might hit like one or two or half a
corner so I got my Omega this gonna be
great boom January crashed
nothing now but yeah I was watching the
Stephens oh no I was that quick con and
we were talking about crypto minor coins
and are we in favor of vendors making
cards specifically for mining and the
answer is no the answer is there's no
good answer yeah the problem is if you
make a card specifically remaining part
of the miners cost profit ratio is the
resale value of that card once they're
done because gamers will still buy cards
even if they've been mined on and and
videos like mine prove that you're not
gonna see any less less forwards where
or performance or anything like that in
that car so if they're banking on being
able to sell a card for $300 at end of
life versus $0 for a mining card and an
end of life that's a $300 swing in favor
of just going and buying a graphics card
anyway yeah and you're not going to
charge double for mining card because
then the miners won't buy because that's
$300 off their profit margin anyway so
yeah it was an interesting conversation
to have with with a couple of guys who
are in the graphics card market I talked
to a rep from sapphire and another from
gigabyte who had the same exact answer
this weekend about there is no easy
answer there there is no market solution
for this the market solution is gamers
need to stop buying graphics cards for
miners if they want this to stop that's
the answer yeah because then the resale
value goes away anyway
but the problem is gamers aren't willing
to stop upgrading their Hardware no
they're not and eventually it'll just be
that the miners are just gonna watch
some kind of money anyways and they'll
start possibly selling those cards for
cheaper because they're gonna be like
this is a used card it's not a brand new
come on I can't charge it I don't know
if the degradation is bad or not if
there is I mean not everyone is gonna be
that in depth or that knowledgeable
about yeah so I'm gonna call someone out
here
DJ art for says oh my god Bitcoin is so
low right now you guys all off so hard
this is why these guys don't work for an
investment firm number one I'm not
providing financial investment advice
yeah straight out number two it's not
difficult to see the writing on the wall
I'm not saying cryptocurrency is dead
and gone
I'm saying it was overvalued that that's
what I'm seeing and the market says that
the market doesn't doesn't say oh yeah
you should invest in crypto when it goes
from nineteen thousand to six thousand
in less than six months yeah everyone
was saying that this is gonna be the
next currency that's gonna replace the
world no it was just a bubble right it
was literally yeah that's all it was
we've we've seen this with housing we've
seen this with comms we've seen this
with a number of different early early
2000s dot-com anders yeah the whole
thing yeah where's pet calm gray monster
calm I think is the only one that
survived to that yeah that in Google Wow
barely bear and Google good bear to
survive you yahoo offered to buy Google
for like thirty million dollars sometime
in like 2001 and they declined yeah so
but yeah who's a complete other story of
poor business's ass
yeah we're not we're not saying it's
dead we're just saying that it wasn't
this it's gonna take over all of our
money and right let's invest all of our
money into Bitcoin because so say how
many times have we seen an article all
Bitcoin account attacked you know it's
it's not as safe it's electronic banks
get hacked they're always gonna get
hacked anything electronic will
eventually be broken and it's not even a
hacked thing the that the technology
behind Bitcoin is why people are
investing in it yeah it's the
decentralized network that holds crypto
it's sorry I'm drawing a blank on the on
the terminology for right now but but
that's what people are excited about and
that's why it has value yeah and it has
value because people say it has value
not because it's backed by gross
national currency and you talked about
on this channel before it is not a
traditional currency yeah no yeah we're
not invested we're just talking for as
far as a technical point and people are
saying is the Golden Goose that's gonna
fix everyone's financial problems haha
didn't expect a response to my comment I
feel bad now please know I love your
channel no no don't feel bad because
that was a great clarification yeah that
was a great call in response you
blockchain thank you
blockchain is the exciting feature of
cryptocurrency that's why cryptocurrency
is worth something
yeah that's why Kodak built an ASIC
miner
for their own Kodak coin which I made so
much fun of and why Steven Seagal got
into a decoy coin coin which like crafts
every three months later right so so
again we we've talked about
cryptocurrency at length on this channel
I'm not an expert on it but again I I
understand the the fundamentals of it
and again when you drop by almost eighty
percent in value you're you're worth one
sixth of what you were seven months ago
yes it's probably bottomed out to where
it should be now I'm not saying it's
valueless I'm saying it's probably not a
good time to invest in it no it's
probably not because it's probably gonna
I would say still Teeter the fact that
all from genuine ow it's been slowly
declining yes there are peaks that are
showing that's going up but you know
right now I don't think it's the big
cash cow everyone thought about
investing in it right so who wants some
Nvidia news van as well stays like what
what say what you go for this I'm just
going Diane there's Diamondhead old
school that's right who's ready for some
Nvidia news there has been a lot of
movement in the last 48 hours and what's
funny as Nvidia is almost trolling at
this point their marketing team is on
fire yeah so we'll just get in straight
into video cards post now I normally
don't like video cards calm as a source
because they're they're kind of a rumour
mill site in my opinion they they they
make a lot of claims without signing any
sources and sometimes there are no
sources yeah but in this case this is a
decent article that does the very good
synopsis of the rumors or the the hints
within and videos marketing material
this week that have been uncovered now
this is this is the most comprehensive
list that I found of all that so there's
a youtube video linked here before the
game which is their their tagline
hashtag be for the game and it's a great
play on words number one it's a great
tagline for for that because what
they're trying to do is say this is the
largest leap forward and graphics card
yet and that kind of makes sense when
you know what's behind it and we'll get
into that but they're also going through
the history of gaming and they're
starting to show games from the original
tank back in the Atari I love that got
to moving forward into Doom the original
1994 doom to moving forward into 3d
graphics with Tomb Raider and Tarak and
games like that me and and and so
they're all their marketing material in
the last couple days has been
progressing through the history of
gaming going into World of Warcraft and
and then going into modern gaming with
games like rise of the Tomb Raider in a
battlefield 5 and so on and so forth so
Skyrim yeah yeah Skyrim was another one
that pointed out so it it was a great
retrospective of the last 30 years 30 to
40 years of PC gaming they went back to
1977 it made you feel very nostalgic I
remember playing that game i remember
playing I loved playing that every
single game they showed on there I
played yeah you're just like oh yeah
it gave you right give you that feeling
right again so the list of hints within
the video there's a chat session between
two users Roy Tex and not eleven which
is great because what they're doing is
supposedly they're renaming the gtx 2070
and 2080 to the RT x 2070 indicating the
reason they're naming at RT x is for the
aforementioned largest leap forward in
gaming technology and that's ray tracing
that's real time ray tracing technology
in the TLDR version of ray tracing
instead of mapping polygons and then
mapping light and saying how does light
reflect off those polygons or how would
light be interpreted by those polygons
what it's doing is already tracing is is
projecting light and letting the
polygons react to the light it's it's
taking what we take is rendering
technology and flipping it around and
and doing it from a different
perspective so I'm always rendering my
perspective and where's the light coming
from and how does it realize react and
reflect and jeomsun even did a great
demo on stage with the Quadro RT x cards
this last week where he went through the
development of Pixar
and they said they started with Toy
Story and they developed a full
feature-length film that required eight
hundred thousand hours documentary and
right on that yeah but Toy Story was
revolutionary because it required eight
hundred thousand hours of CPU processing
time at 100 megahertz yeah on spark CPUs
so that's how they rendered Toy Story oh
and it's a beautiful film even to this
day it's a good technology yeah it aged
very well and he moves forward and with
with one of the future videos they did
global light sampling where the light
would react to different services and
caps different colors and so if you're
reflecting off a red wall all of a
sudden about the direct light is white
and the reflected light is red and and
then he went through into cars and cars
actually used ray tracing and that's how
they got on the on the cars they got
reflections they got real-time lighting
they got real-time perspectives it
wasn't in real time back then but that
was Ray traced rendering yes and
flash-forward to today and I believe
finding dory which also used ray tracing
for its rendering all the water required
like 400 million CPU compute hours on
two gigahertz GPUs so I mean the amount
of processing power is something like
4,000 times what was required to render
Toy Story yeah and it's because of these
technology advances but anyway so RT X
2070 2080 and we're seeing gtx 1050 or
2050 2060 so apparently the the 27 to 28
II will be the only cards that have the
ray tracing cores built in or what
they're calling RT course not 11 the
other user name quite obviously not 1170
1188 T is another user name 80 Mac 20/20
series we've got a lot of T which is
Alan Turing
these cards are Turing this oh okay all
of their pass cards have been named off
famous electrical engineer so you've got
Turing you've got
Scali Empyrean Scott Kepler you've got
yeah yeah you go through the history of
electricity and and those are them
another reference to consumer
electronics and 20 series Zenith 20 ray
is another name that's dropped in there
give me 20 yeah
they provided the GPS coordinates which
is Gamescom in germany oh yeah it's
supposed to be released yeah during that
and a rolling date appears in the
numbers 2 0 8 0 so again that's the most
comprehensive list that I could find and
yeah so apparently sometime on Monday we
should be seeing the RT RT X 27 to 2080
yeah question is will you get one yeah
when will you get one I'll buy one
you'll buy one buy one what are they
gonna be like what 18 I think we know no
no no you know that's what the Quadro
started oh no I know these should
there's there's been talk that these are
going to be more expensive in the
current series there's talk to the 2080
is gonna be around $800 okay I'm the
2070 possibly around 5 to 600 it is the
pricing that I was in a different area
we have right now I dunno on good
authority that on Monday this will be
more of a paper launch that the cards
will possibly available available for
pre-order on Monday but there will be no
cards available for sale so it's gonna
be a couple two to three more weeks
we'll get to that we'll get to that it's
gonna be to three more weeks after
August 20th before these cards are
readily available so going to go to the
the next slide there you go yeah that
one so this is the architectural
difference between the Pascal and the
Turing cards touring being on the right
and actually I can probably turn off my
video source there we go
so the Turing card on the right it's a
eighteen point six billion transistors
versus eleven point eight billion
transistors and a lot of that comes to
the ray-tracing cores which are built in
it should be fairly equivalent on the
cuda cores to Pascal as far
the numbers that I've been reading
probably slightly higher whereas the GTX
1080 has two thousand twenty five
hundred and sixty CUDA cores this one's
supposed to have about three thousand
seventy two so it's supposed to be an
evolutionary rip it's almost twice the
size not revolutionary but evolutionary
evolution jump in CUDA cores and all of
the the chips across the the the Turing
line are supposed to be evolutionary
supposed to be jumping up to the next
level
but yeah the physical size of this die
is absolutely insane so okay we can go
to the next one and of course every
single gamer knows this is thinking of
this yeah I know I sure AM hey I don't
think I'm at nata so I'm like yeah
you're at a 7970 yeah yeah I don't gain
that much anymore yeah the thing so I I
have to
I'm gonna call credit to just because we
got into your CPU and in particular by
the way that's about all the news that
we have on the Nvidia card so far that's
all the rumor mill that's everything
else that's everything just wait till
next week right wait wait till Monday
all will be revealed
yeah but since we got into tears we
talked to a couple weeks ago that I was
going to be getting a donation from a
fan and we were gonna possibly be doing
a computer upgrade or computer save yes
and what saved my computer's so were you
aware of the shape those packages
arrived in I was not okay I'm gonna go
and grab one of the boxes right now all
right now this is the donated from
patron or donated from oh okay oh yes
yes I remember that yeah cuz he had a
bunch of stuff bunch of hardware that
yes I remember the discussion this is a
fans from Norway that sent me this and
this is the shape of the first box that
arrived just I did not open this with a
knife I did not open this with anything
else
this was damaged from water this was
damaged from customs Oh rat live inside
of it no there's nothing left to the
cardboard this this was caramel and
there's nothing left to it
oh my god so now what this fan was
sending me was a GTX 780 with a full
aqua tuning water block which is what I
was going to give you so it just came as
a box no no I got all the parts Oh what
there did okay I got all the parts in
fact right so this was basically soaked
in salt water for at least a couple of
days doing both boxes worth the complete
list of parts was three 360 mil rads
from from ek there was a an ek pumpin
reservoir combo there was a whole bunch
of fans something like 40 fans from
naught to a fractal a whole bunch of
very very nice fans like no junk in
there there was this gtx 780 not the TI
just the 780 so the 2 gives about or 3
Giga my model I guess with a full aqua
tuning water block on it
there was a GTX 1080 with an ek water
block on it
there was a z170 micro or mini ITX board
there was an FM 2 mini ITX board with an
AMD a 6300 i think on there there was
some ramen there there was a 1 terabyte
SSD there was even warped right there
there was hundreds and hundreds and
possibly thousands of dollars of parts
in this box and they were literally and
utterly destroyed oh yeah the screws
have rust
yeah yes what I will say the 1080
survived
oh the GTX 980 survived now I already
had that plan for another bed but
literally the fans and the 1080 are the
only thing that survived out of that box
no boys was the boxing shirt the box was
insured there is some insurance money
with it so I'll be getting a little
little kickback from that but it's not
the value of the parts oh that's a lie
I'm gonna get a brand new RTF ya know
yeah Oh save I could save my computer
with an RTA yeah so that was the first
box that arrived and it arrived three
days prior to the second box and it was
the better of the two shaped boxes that
that's one of them the other ones
somewhere around him worth I saved them
just in case I need to do anything
further for insurance claims but
pictures yeah they were oh there's the
other one over by the traffic in there
oh I thought that was just trash that
walked in no exactly so um yeah the beer
the beer that came from Ireland ship
yeah perfect well he brought to Vegas
for this trip though but anyway the 1080
survived you're you're going to see that
in an upcoming build but I wanted to
give him a shout out because this is a
dude who literally just had a bunch of
tech laying around that he upgraded he
upgraded to like a dual 1080 ti system
from his GTX 1080 and then a whole bunch
of other water cooling and and high-end
parts oh yeah I really look talking oh
yeah right and and and he's just a great
fan of the show and he sent all this to
me and it was utterly destroyed and and
he was pretty heartbroken at first but
but dude saying oh thanks absolute props
to you because you you are an amazing
human being now so and I wanted to make
sure everyone still knows that so thank
you so much regan $2 press f to pay
respects there you go alright yeah
there's a dozen eqing fittings in there
there was a pipe bending kit so that
battle came through just fine yeah I
think the fittings are gonna be okay
there's a couple other parts of there
yeah that 780 has rust on the screws oh
yeah it was um in fact let me see if I
can get the if you can focus on it I
mean there's just [ __ ] yeah salt in
there so this is the condition the block
came in and and as soon as these came in
I didn't bother taking any pictures I
was thinking about doing a video but I
immediately just got into very clear by
the recovery mode yeah oh and the backs
even better see this screw right here
that's completely solidified with rust
yeah oh and the back of the PCB was
damaged as well it was it was bent or
hit and the whole board is warped you
can see that little bends at the end of
it yeah DJ arc force 20
all our still feel bad about earlier
don't feel bad about earlier that's
actually a great comment it led to a
better conversation yeah I don't mind
people attack me and I say this all the
time and I said it at the end of my most
recent video I read every single comment
I don't read all the chat but I read
every single comment because
constructive criticism or otherwise it
can still help me learn and do better
and find out what you guys want and if
I'm not clear about something and you go
all these guys don't know anything about
Investment Banking and I go well
actually we've been talking about this
for a while that can open up another
conversation entirely I can phrase it
differently or maybe top maybe you
changed my mind that's happened a couple
times - oh yeah so so yeah do not feel
bad I I enjoy viewer interaction I it's
one of the things I absolutely love it
you gotta take the good with the bad
sometimes it's bad sometimes people in
jerks Investment Banking we know about
that now there's Jeff know anything
about water cooling not at all that's a
joke from a previous video and the
comments that he reads
all the confidence no I don't know
anything about thermal paste our old a
thermal pay yeah so someone got really
really offended that I didn't bother
testing the thermal paste that came in
ketchup packets for a video involved
with Aliexpress water cool yeah why
didn't you test that it would have taken
like ten minutes man someone got really
reacted yeah 10 minutes of testing is
actually like two to three hours of
video shooting and editing it was like
yeah it's not really worth it and then
what we're here for
all right I'm here to test the block not
the throne page yeah rather test the
block all right
so but give you 25 bucks and postage for
a rusty Tahoe 1070 there you go now cuz
I think the the blocks worth more than
that besides it's a good window hanger
now or wall hanger whoo all here so yeah
this is gonna be on display from now on
it's a very nice-looking looking car yes
it's an EVGA GTX 780 there were
beautiful cards when they were new um so
yeah it looks better with the water
cooling okay so yeah let's see let's get
into some tripper news because I'm
almost done with this beer and or do we
want to transition
they're open a new beer before we gonna
die because that's another that's
another it's not too big and then we're
in the game so that's the last thing
okay that's the last tech we have so
we'll just crack a beer in the middle of
thread revenge that's fine that's okay
that's fine all right
so thread Ripper is now on the market
available and end benchmarks are out yes
quite impressive benchmark yes very
impressive very impressive benchmarks
all right
so rise and thread rapport twenty nine
ninety WX and 2950 X are both available
for sale today that's their 16 core are
32 thread and 32 for thread yeah that's
the one just like I'm gonna like you
might be rethinking that 25 dollar sale
right that's 25 dollars to buy a tape
measure
yeah signed by everyone at computing
yeah is my signature worth anything
honestly I don't know you know you're
gonna get some guy yeah I'll trade you
for this but your signature totally you
know what I could sign the block and
sell it to the highest bidder oh maybe
we'll do a raffle hey you should you
should when you move the office cuz if
no one knows you know I know yeah oh my
bad okay so I have a segment yeah I
can't make popped into my head my mat
okay sorry jeez hey if you stayed this
long it's a preview to hint it's like
when I moved my office thanks it's like
Nvidia's video it's yeah what does he
mean by that hashtag not 173 square feet
which is what my office currently is I
measured it actually catted it up and
boy it's it's pretty
anyways Rison wait wait Corey Corey
Schroeder $25 donation a bit of cash for
the realest youtuber on this platform
sorry I cursed so much at quick contact
got a bit excited meeting you Corey when
I'm not on this show I swear like a
sailor yeah it's a bad habit but Corey
dude great to meet you
you were actually the first fan at quick
who ran into me and recognized me and
then you were gracious enough to become
a patreon dude you rock great to meet
you
so thank you so much man by the way
about somewhere between a dozen and 18
people walked up now a couple of people
like Rick Jeff I was so wanted to meet
you man and a couple of more patreon so
I think I have three different patreon
stop by and say hi that's cool and
whatnot but but they were probably about
at least another 10 whoo girl you do you
do videos by you on YouTube I'm on
YouTube okay where have I seen you
before
and I'm like Lenny's tech tip your set
no not on that one yeah now that way
yeah so one of the guys I went as always
I'm Jeff he goes yes so so yeah but
again Jeff walked away Lee QuakeCon was
a great time and thank you all to all
who came out so that was cool
we'll also be a PAX West in three weeks
we will be two weeks to it crap is it
that's like two and a half two and a
half turn it out you all all be there at
least I can only make it one and a half
days yeah but everyone takes over that
right why don't I have days everyone
will be there yeah we'll be walking
around the show floor at PAX literally
just get crashing talking to booths
yeah meeting fans they have a couple
appointments but not double appointments
that it'll ramp up here in the next week
or so as people get their schedules
dialed in we should do a crap computing
after-party yeah we might advertise like
a fan meetup maybe Saturday night or
Friday night actually
oh yeah at friends writing that would be
a fun time - yeah what time are you
gonna be up Friday I don't as fast as I
can get there okay leave early
I'm trying pack your bag go to work and
then leave straight from work I'm
thinking about yeah totally and that I'm
even thinking about not going to work
yep that's what I would do yeah I got
plenty of vacation that's right all
right I didn't go to smash down now I
didn't go to smash con all right
so thread Ripper
sorry sorry we were give a little
sidetracked let me get my my stuff up in
here so I can actually read it on my
screen all right
so twenty nine ninety WX and twenty nine
50x benchmarks are out for those who
don't know they 2950 X is 799 I want to
say or 899 899 I think and the twenty
nine ninety WX is the workstation
variant the thirty-two core it is
selling for $17.99 so these are high-end
desktop chips they are very expensive
but early benchmarks are out if we
scroll down a little bit 64 megabytes of
cash on the two workstation chips 32
megabytes of cash on the the gaming
chips and only the lonely 1900 X which
is in my workstation behind me has 16
megabytes paper I was saying bit
all of them have quad core memory only
the last three have and that was yeah
and that was 2666 I'm actually running
mine at 30 3066 is what I've got mine
clock too so they they do support higher
that's just the official out-of-the-box
specs at the top two are using the big
hunting 25 watts to their 250 Watts
versus 180 watts I will say with the
1900 X overclocked I am seeing 195 watts
from the wall with it running at 4.1
gege which is my my top stable overclock
so yeah these these are not to be
trifled with now I buy lower end chips
I think my 1950 or my 1900 gets about a
1870 Cinebench score that's gonna be
nice at that new r-tx car going in there
so what a lot of people are curious in
is the benchmarks though and I'm taking
my benchmarks from tech spot it's it's a
website I like to go to to get very
generalized stock numbers doesn't do a
lot of enthusiasts overclocking but very
consistent testing very very much like
gamers Nexus so these are the ones that
I found first so they get to go on first
so Cinebench obviously the 2990 WX just
cranks it kicks the absolute crap out of
anything it takes everyone's lunch money
oh yeah and is the king of the jungle
gym not necessarily in single threaded
performance although it's only five
points behind it not not really yeah
it's only five points behind an Intel
chip
yep so five thousand out of the box
incentive bench that's freaking insane
what's even more insane is if we look at
those second and third place numbers now
the i9 79 80 XE is Intel's 18 core
$1,800
behemoths consider high-end desktop chip
it's not a Z on its their high-end
consumer chip
their highest in consumer chip that they
have right now 18 cores
36 threads its cranking out of 33 17 and
a 184 a single-threaded score the
interesting thing to me is the next one
is the 29 50 X at 16 core 32 threads so
two less threads for less coarse yeah
sitting basic seven percent yeah seven
percent behind it in in multi-threaded
score and the price and one percent
behind it in single thread a performance
and what is the price difference a
thousand dollars yeah that's a big one
right there that's that's that's what
I'm sorry $900 yeah 899 versus 1790 yeah
Wow yeah that's what's insane to me is
oh yeah oh it's bad it's even the next
thread Ripper is still really cool yeah
the 1950 X which is the 16 core I mean
it's all right there and that's based on
the last gen technology or yeah the the
first generation where this is the first
generation we're fine this is a plus not
Zen 2 - I'm not buying as n+ CPU because
I'm waiting for Zen - but still it's
still so close right I mean yeah it's
not quite up there but for the price
right yeah $1,800 for this high-end
Intel
and really people are only gonna be
buying it because know what to tell no
you might need to do the whole look at
that thing yep um I had a very
interesting conversation with a couple
different people at quick home this
weekend I keep going back to that but
hey you met a lot of people when you're
surrounded by people who are in the
industry and have been in the industry
for 20-plus years you have these kinds
of conversations so it's really nice to
harken back to them I had one guy say I
bleed I bleed blue you cut me that it's
blue in my veins I am an Intel fanboy
through and through but I'm really
intrigued with what Rison is doing right
now and I said here's the deal Zen plus
is not Zen - that's a completely
different distinction and what AMD is
never done
in the history of AMD is hit Intel on
the jaw they've done that plenty times
they've come out and go and gotten a
real good soccer punch in and made until
rethink their entire strategy number two
is they have not come out with that body
blow second yeah second hit they they
haven't finished the job they have never
come out with a second generation that
is better than the first they've never
done a follow through right yeah exactly
they have never taken insults of a mat
they beaten him to benchmarks we've
we've talked about that extensively they
do that and then the next chip just
completely fails yeah you have the
original Athlon which beat Intel to one
gigahertz which Intel had dominated the
market since 1986 and all of a sudden in
1988 here comes AMD nipping at their
heels and then beats them to the one
gigahertz chip mark you have the Athlon
x2 series which beat them to consumer
level dual core you have AMD 64 which is
now the standard 64 bits instruction set
it's not Itanium until it's AMD 64 and
m1 not well you fast-forward to today or
two like the FX series the bulldozer the
piledriver those kind of things FX was
not a bad system when it came out the
problem is it was already slightly
behind Intel but it was much cheaper
when piledriver came out it wasn't any
better no it was
it was a marginal improvement to best it
was a marginal improvement a way way
higher power consumption so AMD has
always done well to get that first that
first like yeah okay first a little
hooking and cuz usually Intel always has
I got some up my sleeve right don't
worry about this we've had this in the
back pocket right right it doesn't look
like that right they've done that with
with Nehalem when they dropped their
thousand dollar Extreme Edition chip
they did that with Core 2 quad they did
that they did that a number of times I
got this in her backpack I might as well
release it now yeah
until doesn't have anything no one right
now they have nothing in their back
pockets and they're not gonna have
anything in their back pocket for three
more years oh yeah because we've talked
about what they're even planning right
what they're planning is still way far
behind of what a and B a showing right
number two is AMD just refined their
first generation launch I call Zen plus
Zen 1.0 yeah whereas the original rise
in technology that's the original thread
Roper original Rison I'd call that like
a point eight it was buggy
it was buggy it was great performance
for value but it had issues with memory
controllers there were tons of BIOS
issues there were tons of compatibility
issues there still issues with certain
applications and workloads that don't
work completely right on Rison but
they're getting better every single day
what I call Zen plus is then one point
up what should have been the 1.0 release
or not this should have been but what
really is productive
AMD or is here we have a good product
yeah
and I say that and I run an original
forever verse you know is what it is
yeah but what I'm excited for
is what I've seen out of Zen 2 out of
the roadmap for Zen - mm-hmm
that is dropping from a 12 nanometer
process down to a 7 nanometer process
that is getting much faster memory
support that is listening to the
consumers and giving the consumers will
thing I think that's them and that is
being in a far more competitive price
point that Intel has even dreamed
last decades oh yeah I think Intel has
become more like the apple of you're
buying a brand name now and we're
putting out ok products I wouldn't even
do that
I think Intel's problem was when there's
no competition there's no one pushing
you to be better and if all you have to
do is a 5% IPC performance increase per
year that's easy to do yeah well then
they're probably also looking at their
bottom dollar
oh we don't need that ha have that right
head guy out there who bases it was the
creative genius - yeah and the AMD is
like hey here's a bag full of money come
work for us
mmm right um here's what I was gonna
give Intel but now I'm gonna give it to
you right I but that's my train of
thought it's not that um no
competitiveness no competitiveness yeah
yeah like AMD has never had that that
second hit and xem 2 is going to be that
second hit yeah and when it drops in
March AMD is not only going to be better
performance per dollar which they they
absolutely have the crown today they're
gonna be better performance overall oh
yeah I mean like you said it's gonna be
a while for Intel here's where I was at
Intel the chips you are using today the
chips in 2018 that you're using today
are refined in the Heylin chips they are
the original i7 x58 chips that have
shrank from 45 nanometer down to 14
enemies that's all intel has done is
they shrink their die they get a little
more efficient they shrink their die
they get a little more efficient it's
what was referred to as the tick-tock in
Intel first first you have the original
i7 for the x58 then you come out with
the the z68 platform and and that's your
talk and that's your consumer-level
chips that's not the enthusiasts chips
that's the consumer level that's when
the i7 860 and the i5 640 came out so
that was your tick that was your talk
the next tick was Sandy Bridge 2nd gen I
sighs ugly and then came Ivy Bridge
which is the same socket same same size
same die and that was refined it was
better memory control it was about 5%
faster IPC it was better power fish
that's your talk and then they went to
the next and then the next and so and so
your 4000 and 5000 series are tick-tock
your 6000 7000 series are tick-tock
unfortunately eight series was another
talk and night series is looking like
another talk there's there's no tick
intel has no tick left that they they
forgot how to tick and this was very
evident when 8th gen Intel mobile came
out and they're based on 7th gen mobile
technology H Gen Intel Mobile is just
rebrand
badge 7th gen chips that's all they are
they don't have an 8th gen mobile chip
that they're just refined KB Lake the
same thing with the the X 299 those are
all 7000-series those are all 7th gen
chips those are all cabling there
they're not coffee like and they're
certainly not whiskey Lake so they said
tick tock tock tock tock tock tock the
problem is when you talk for so many
years
that's all intel has done is talked like
what I did there all they've done is
talked meanwhile AMD went back to ground
zero and built a grand a brand new
architecture from the ground up over
five years yeah and now AMD is has has a
line up all the way to Zen for that
they've released publicly and I'm sure
they've got five and six in their back
pocket to that they're talking about at
least internally yeah of how they can
refine Rison Intel's got nothing no that
they really do have nothing and even
though I forgot what the presentation
was but even with them trying to present
that overclocked cooling system that was
nothing it was literally nothing and
they were just stretching they're
putting a bunch of turbo charges on this
99 generation you know chip it was just
scrapped and there's nothing to even in
the distance or rumors of what's coming
out what could be coming out yeah
someone saying beer it's just another
double IPA the Mad Hatter Mad Hatter
oh brother brewing no brother bring so
it's it's just it's a and B I bet we're
gonna start seeing Intel's
consumer market dropped to like all of
the laptops and people like selling
stuff it's gonna be AMD processors over
Intel processors absolutely and then
we're gonna see the price drop and these
performance things that will probably
see even better performance out of these
laptop you know you know where the crazy
market is though is the server market oh
it's a market that AMD has never even
been able to crack they hold about a
three percent market share and that's
only out of the generosity of some
server marketers who are using a for as
low as AMD gotten market share with the
consumer market which is about 15
percent
they have been laughable in the
enterprise space and I've talked about
this on the show before too when you
come out with the new technology for
data centers generation one is a show me
what you got yeah
is a we're coming out with its
energy-efficient chip and it's scalable
and it's powerful and performance per
watt we beat the competition and the
enterprise market will go okay give me
three of those like literally three I
want to run it like I just watch all one
try something I want to run a rack of
those and I want to do do some data
crunching and I want to see probably
efficient it's probably their personal
data like yeah that's right am i right
Home Server right exactly
get give me one rack of those I'm gonna
try one rack and we'll go from there
we'll use it as a dev server yeah
generation two they start buying crap
yeah and when I say say they start
buying crap they start buying warehouses
worth of data center equipment to put in
place and that's what happens with the
generation 2 and as I said AMD has never
had a Gen 2 where they've come up for
the uppercut knockout blow AMD's got a
Gen 2 and they have a Gen 2 in epic and
in fact in December they're launching 7
nanometre epic CPUs and it's looking
like it's gonna be a jaw hit and it's
looking like it's gonna be an a
devastating blow for Intel on the server
market and AMD's marketing is oh it's
fantastic marketing they're doing like
some guerrilla warfare
Zeon was big so was cold Oh God
didn't they do like that whole Twitter
rants and that they did one about the
dinosaurs yeah fantastic like it is
actually just even if you're not even
into tech you just know like okay these
are two rival brands like yeah Nike and
Adidas
and it's just like wow holy crap these
are funny it makes you want to go and
look into these beer
I'm saying beers just because you're
holding that yeah into these chips and
brands these beers so yeah it's it's
interesting what I can't kind of fun a
funny thing that we were saying
marketing to there's even this is a AMD
risin we were we were talking right at
the beginning of how fast and how
overclocked they're going yeah it's some
guy went in like overclocked it to six
gigahertz yes so so this came out late
last week no not not this particular
story this celery was actually yesterday
was was August 14
someone got AMD the 2990 W X which is
the 32 core it's a 3.4 gigahertz base
clock up to 5 point 2 gigahertz and was
blowing in till out of the water and
overclocked oh yeah and and and here's
the other thing as Intel or AMD has
never really competed that well in the
high-end overclocked space either they
had a couple winners in there with like
an FX processor hitting 7 gigahertz or
something like that but they've never
done well well yesterday they got a
thread rapport 2990 W X 2 6 gigahertz
Intel and - and scored an 8300 in
Cinebench yeah which is closing in on
the record for a dual processor system
at least at least it was before I dare
Bower blue and out of the water a couple
weeks ago with a dual overclock that
makes this this was also I love this
picture yeah fully frozen yep so yeah
it's even frozen - the RAM oh yeah so
yeah all of a sudden they're they're
processors are starting to compete in
the high-end architecture space they're
starting to compete in the mid-range
architecture space they're starting to
compete in the enthusiast space
starting to compete in the server space
and I think when Zen two drops Intel
doesn't have an answer for at least
three years yeah I am curious of their
contracts for consumer market stuff of I
wonder if Intel is banking possibly on
something like that just to keep them
afloat who knows you know but this will
be interesting
were you going to say an epic it I
should have but I totally should have
said an epic hit yeah thread or system
should be good for ESXi systems though
they absolutely should be amazing for
virtualization loads in fact they'll
probably scale a little bit better than
Intel because Intel still suffers from
meltdown inspector disabilities which
hampers them on the virtualization side
whereas Andy was not as affected and in
fact Zen plus is not affected at all by
by Specter in meltdown if I remember
correctly so yeah that Durbar OC was
hilarious I need to show you this video
when we're all done with the show it was
Derek who liquid-cooled a to you
dual CPU epic server with an inert
liquid and just had the stock fans which
are the giant ass fans
shooting liquid like a jet ski over the
top of these CEOs it was amazing three
years can't see them waiting that long
to drop the next series by nine so the
problem is the next series of bye nines
is based on the current series of vines
which is based off the last generation
version of the I said ovens ya know all
they're doing is they're fracturing
their CPU line they're taking away
hyper-threading from the i7s and calling
it an i-9 and telling you yeah here's
your lunch go enjoy ya know intel needs
a whole brand-new redesign their
architecture does not scale down any
further than it does today yeah 10 14
nanometer is their max they cannot get
below that their yields are not good
enough though and even if they got it to
ten nanometer I'd still don't think they
would beat AMD LD has an architecture
that is scalable and that is shrinkable
and like I said all Intel's done is
taken that 45 knee nanometer Nehalem
architecture replace the ddr3 with a
ddr4 controller and shrunken down to 14
the problem is they're running into a
factor of scale they cannot get any
smaller they can't get any more
efficient yeah no I'm betting they knew
that this was gonna happen yeah I don't
think they were banking on AMD coming
out with something like I don't think
they knew this was gonna happen no III
don't think they did I think they said
we'll ride this Pony for as long as it
goes but I thought they were expecting
to at least two more fab processes out
of it I think they were they should have
been on ten nanometer in 2015 that was
the crossover date than they projected
back in 2011 for we're gonna cross ten
nanometer in 2015 and in 2015 the chips
came out and they were still at 14 and
then 2016 came out and the chips were
still at 14 and then there was rumors of
delays and fab problems and then all of
a sudden 2017 and they confirmed that
there were delays with their tendon
Amitabh's and we're having problems with
them we're almost all the way through
2018 they're still having problems with
with a 10 nanometer fab they have an i3
mobile chip that's on the market right
now that you can get in 10 nanometer and
that's the only viable processor they're
getting off those fabs so they cannot
scale down this architecture any further
to make it any more efficient which
means it's a dead architecture they've
ridden this pony as long as it'll go so
and and if you look at AMD's history now
intel has way more Rd dollars than in
then the knee of he does in tell us way
more dollars than AMD does it took Andy
five years to reboot from FX to Rison he
took him five years yeah they didn't
they didn't come out with a single
product in five years and then they drop
Rison because they spent five years in
the lab figuring out of this was going
to be a scalable technology and it is
yeah in hell they bet big in these four
right Intel is gonna be doing the same
thing now they're gonna be faster at it
because I got more them way more capital
the ways way more capital way more
intelligent people they just hired Jim
killer away from AMD who was the
architect of Rison he's the brainchild
behind it so he's basically being
brought onto Intel to say how do we
scale how do we glue our processors
yeah how do we do this and here's double
the amount of money here it's double the
amount of accessible items to do Mesa
your your whole lab and everything we've
gotten it even bigger for you so you
better come rise an even better product
mm-hmm it's it's it's like the Shelby
for Shelby Mustang or Shelby Cobra oh
yeah for Ferrari
well it's Carroll Shelby being shopped
around to various yeah exactly that's
what it was that's yeah let's say yeah
Spector's still affects horizon and he
says I don't think it affects it as much
you're right it does affect it however
as of Zen Plus on the threader per sign
I don't believe it affects it whereas
the upcoming ninety nine hundred K it
still affects it so
so again virtualization is going to be
better on the AMD side next year they're
going to pass Intel and and they're
gonna pass Intel top to bottom not just
value per dollar they're gonna pass
Intel in performance and value per
dollar cuz I sell them cheaper tip oh
yeah sorry
hundred dollars yeah alright that's all
we have for tech yeah let's get into
some gaming news so Mad Hatter we ever
talked about this we can do a little
quick you know uh this just tastes like
a standard double IPA a little bit
cloudy to me
yeah Northwest I mean like we said it's
all these beers seem to have really over
it tastes more New England to me it
takes a little let's go oh it's got that
haze yeah all three of these seem to
unfiltered I didn't see any clarity no
these are all one filters yeah pack this
one even says unfiltered unpasteurized
unadulterated beer well we're hazy
technically has a wheat to it yeah so an
oat sorry not wheat oat or I don't think
this has oh this one does Oh does it so
uh what's funny is all three of these
cans have ingredients which I'm not used
to seeing no I love that I love that
water
malted barley oats hops yeast and that's
it great fantastic so oh and it contains
gluten there was there's a couple of
them that I've seen this like uh vegan
looks like wait
aren't all beers that's like why do you
have the state that you're vegan all of
these beers and ciders are vegan you got
meeting this what yeah sorry my phones
blowing up all of a sudden anyway gaming
news so uh valve has been hard at work
yes they has of late so I don't know if
you all remember I did a video on the
current state of steam OS or as I'd like
to call it what could have been was an
interesting video it was and it's
actually one of my most popular videos
on the channel it was seriously
interesting to read up on the history of
CMOS what it was marketed as and what it
is today and then really dive in and
experience it because the UI has not
evolved one bit from the original
release of this they haven't done crack
do it they haven't been cropped it
they've up they've done some security
updates and they brought a couple new
features but the UI is still kind of
junk and for it for and the original
marketing for steam OS was we want to
compete in the living room space we want
someone to buy a gaming PC instead of an
Xbox or Playstation and put it in the
living room and game on a PC but with a
controller that was the marketing for it
okay um and to some extent they actually
did pretty well with that they they made
the OS kind of a user-friendly
experience as far as downloading and
selecting and playing games and the
steam controller love it or hate it is a
decent controller I have one it's ready
it's a bit two views it takes a bit to
get used to I will say four mouse
controls it's much more accurate than
you're getting using a joystick or
something like that
however if I'm playing in front of a TV
I still prefer a joystick because if I'm
in front of TV I'm so like where's my
wireless keyboard and mouse I'm still
right Bob or your PC gamers yeah I was
trying to get in the mindset of what
steam was was marketing this - and that
was console gamers who Xbox Iike that's
what it was marketed to it was it was
to take those players away not add PC
players to the space and I think that's
where a lot of miscommunication comes
about however I had problems with
general PC usage on that because I feel
if you're going to be a PC and you're
gonna compete in that space I need to be
able to pull up a web browser and browse
something I need to be able to install
other applications I need to be able to
do modding support and you know outside
of the steam library because of again if
you're playing on a PC I should be about
one mod I want those right extra
features that the PC Rises your love
right and the thing is on a PC it's dead
simple for a Windows user yeah
Linux is not Windows this is the debian
Kouros based off of is not Windows no
and I got a lot of hate for saying those
things for saying hey the web browser is
crap well you're using controller yeah
because that's how they intended it to
be though you can install mods because
it's not intuitive well you just control
this and that that server space right
enter its lineage don't you know and
sudo make directory visited as soon as
you open up the terminal window you're
alienate 90% of users okay here you know
I went install play I won't point click
I want Nexus mods that's the level of
modding support that I want to call it
adequate modding support yes you can go
into a game and you can code your own
flippin mods it's not what I was talking
about I was talking about the average
user wanting to install the vast array
of Skyrim mods yes half of the best ones
available are only available on Nexus
mods and they have a great front-end and
you install the nexus mod add-in and you
say I want to play Skyrim and
Borderlands and fallout 4 and then you
select your mods you download and it
installs it for you
there's no such thing as easy mod
support and easy software installation
on Linux know for the average user again
as soon as you open up terminal and as
soon as you start talking any kind of
computer gobbly [ __ ] you're alienating
90% of users because they don't
give a crap though they don't care and
now say the word backslash ya done
exactly
well /o sorry whatever I'm gonna that
1/4 left or so so again those were my
points um the point that the users
brought up I said would you switch to an
OS knowing the problems that it has and
I actually got more people saying yes I
would switch if they had game support if
they had all of my local games supported
well and and and I also got hate because
well I can play all those games on one
again unless I can click install and
then click play and be in the game it's
not going to happen
yeah you you have to get over yourself
you have to get over your own prejudices
and your own insecurities and your own
whatever your on ego oh I know the Linux
I can totally do that
you have to get over yourself and
realize what the average person wants to
do the average person wants to sit down
and play freaking game yeah the consumer
right half the time when you have a
console or something like that right
it's gonna be you're playing these
advanced games rpz but then you have
your nephew your cousin so uh how do you
come over I want to play that cool
minecraft mod or cybercrime oh sorry for
/e director oh god the early days of
installing computer craft inside of
Minecraft so I can have a computer
network inside yeah which by the way was
freaking awesome and ram dual OS my
niece is in there they're you know
they're little kids you know form
forward at 13 but yeah they're all mine
crafters still oh yeah half the time
they come over or my my parents house
they just want to play Minecraft and we
have a little crappy computer setup for
them yeah but if it was Linux and I want
to play this mod I want to play that on
oh it's a bit weird I don't have time
for this so but but the the vast
majority of comments said if my games
were supported and if I was able to
click install and click play I would
switch yes and by the way after my video
went live less than a week later the
steam pulled the steam OS tab off their
main course was very interesting which
was very interesting we all were like
what is
craft computing actually making a
difference by the way depending on who
you are and what your Google cookies say
if you search steamos on Google I'm
either the first or second I'm sometimes
I beat out the steamos homepage yes no
five of em UK but that's so my SEO was
on point
anyway so valve is actually working on
an integration feature to play
non-native games inside of CMOS you know
the way they're planning on doing that
is not the way that most people
suggested which was using wine or some
other variant of a Windows emulation
it sounds like steam may be building
their own weather it's based on wine I
don't know but they're calling a steam
play and there were a couple service
tags that were pulled out of the the
most recent code for CMOS and the most
recent beta and they're basically
messages one of them reads Steam play
will automatically install compatibility
tools that allow you to play games from
your library that were built for other
operating systems we don't know if that
means mobile probably not because
there's no native no there's no neat
Android OS or iOS games and there was
also another message that it described
another tool that explains that users
will be able to select a compatibility
tool for use with games that have not
been specifically tested on their
specific platform which often refers to
Windows games that don't specifically
include Linux support so if you're
talking about the original borderlands
not borderlands tube or glance you can
be clear though played on linux
borderlands one cannot however
borderlands one can be played with in
wine with a compatibility layer which is
basically a DirectX compatibility layer
transpose it open over to OpenGL open 3d
or Vulcan yeah and and there's also a
Vulcan compatibility there that you can
play dx11 games on Vulcan and run those
on Linux so whether or not they're using
wine they're using something and
something beer right and say
yeah that'd be awesome
steam spirit we're here first in craft
compute trademark craft computing beer
that's right so this valve is working on
something that is going to allow you to
play Windows games on Linux yeah which
was really my Achilles heel of steam OS
I can get around the web browser I can
hook up a keyboard mouse and I can
browse the web that way even though the
web browser sucks I can get around some
other features but again if I'm gonna
have a computer I expect computer level
performance on certain things on a web
browser
I want file access I want a desktop I
want to be able to install other apps
and more importantly I want to be able
to play my windows games natively sounds
like it might there that kind of go on
that right and I don't know if I've had
a hand in this all I know is I have the
most popular steamos video on YouTube of
all time you know what maybe if they
haven't be like Jeff can you review this
for us I actually considered contacting
them and saying hey dude I'm totally on
board for a beta even B I'll Drive up to
Seattle and try it out I don't care see
ya later right so so I'm close enough I
I'd love to sit in a room with an
engineer and talk about the the problems
that I laid out yeah how are you going
to solve this I'd love to listen to the
people that bot would want to buy this
yeah I'll bring the beer or the spirit
mm either one it's fine
so but I kind of a saying this that I'm
not a big gamer or I used to be kind of
like I love playing shooters I so am I
used to be - yeah I I was what like I
like to refer to the seasonal gamer uh
a1 game came out and I'd like to play
the crap out of that you know
multiplayer games battle a lot of
battlefields Call of Duty I put a crap
out for like six seven months and then
I've done for a further three four
months and then the next one came out
but the only thing I've always loved was
like classic retro game didn't you even
get a video on like it was the game boy
thing
you got like a wish yeah thing but house
crappy crappy ones but I've always loved
classic games and we even talked about
like Nintendo a while ago how like the
original we'd have like these channels
and everything like that and we
complained about it I don't know if they
paid attention to us or what's going on
honestly craft computing is changing
more it is really cheap because the
Nintendo switch is actually come up with
such things I think it's kind of
brilliant is a is a subscription-based
which width we talked about talked about
tired about for right now it's it's 20
bucks a year which is actually cheap
mm-hmm ends up being like 4 bucks a
month for an NES right now it's right
now it's only NES yeah classic NES items
that will be available online online
plus additional we know I'm sorry not
switch games and support right now
there's only talk of NES games but
there's they're saying right now they're
gonna launch 20 NES game with further to
come your price will not increase during
that time yeah
there's no mention yet of SNES Sega
Genesis and 64 and 64 or any of that
stuff but this does if I thank you thank
you or are you just the original Wii now
there are some really fun games on that
um but I love the subscription-based
they're even doing a couple different
ways of hey you only want three months
in this 8 bucks yeah that's like that's
one four dollars on a monthly basis
eight dollars for three months or $20 a
year year are years a year you know I
mean if a friend came over all I want to
play is cast classic game or like I said
my nephews and nieces came over mm-hmm
oh you I wanna show you the original
Mario original Metroid or Mario or let's
play all the classic games hmm four
bucks I'll do that and I have access to
20-plus games or or whatever the library
at the time will be yep can i play
devil's advocate here all right guys I'm
gonna take a contrarian standpoint to
the best one I think Nintendo is being
greedy as f really I think they are okay
here's my problem
I emulated the Super Nintendo on my PC
at full 30fps with graphical
enhancements that were not available on
the SNES at the time in 1994 yeah I had
to compute I had the power and I had the
internet and I had people who were
willing to ROM dump and I had and I had
the will to go find him yeah ok so that
technology has been around for totally
for years oh yeah now for the SNES
before it was available for the NES back
in 1991 yeah people started figuring out
how to do that on 486 machines here's
the problem ok a simple Google search
and I can download Nintendo's entire
library for free and play it with
graphical enhancements on anybody I said
I any device that I want I get that
you're saying for $20 a year I get
twenty NES games nuts but with more to
come sure more to come well they
actually put our hands mitts in it I I
will say maybe maybe not I have 435 NES
games in my personal library you know
what though but there are some
enhancements that they did to these
games there's a multiplayer online
capability that you can play these games
with your friends now online and play
those games with my friends too I
complain that play on any on any
emulator that's on these are also legal
right
they're also legal here's the problem
and it's the same thing that bit the
music industry in the ass is when a
technology exceeds your revenue stream
when the technology is so much easier to
achieve than your revenue stream makes
it when I have to own a Nintendo switch
and pay your subscription service and
only play these 20 games when not and I
go god I wish I had Tetris to man I wish
I had Wario's woods man I wish I had
this or that and then go well can i play
Wario's woods today oh look I can play
Wario's woods and every other Nintendo
game under the Sun for absolute free on
any device that's ever been made by man
that's true but but again to like yours
I'm not saying this isn't going to sell
to the crime saying Nintendo why is it
only 20 games well it's the start and I
think that's to start with what's what
the NES is stopping I think you then do
the NES was crap they should do for 20
bucks here all the whole library is
let's show the bagasse that's your buddy
that's my pen
well agree to that twenty dollars a year
if you if you unlock your higher NES
library and that's what's required for
the base subscription if you say you
have to buy the NES library for twenty
dollars a year I'll pay it and I've been
doing this crap for free for 24 years
yes I will pay it well I think this is
better than this last subscription base
or paying of the Wii and Wii U where you
had to buy per game individual game well
it's like even if was $0.99 that that
was a ripoff right that was a complete
ripoff for one game B I don't think I
don't think at $0.99 for an individual
game that you own for life is is it is a
bad deal for any game well the problem
is when they were charging five dollars
for the original Zelda yeah the original
Zelda today does not stack up to a $5
game you know it's nostalgic now they're
not stating that there is nowhere in
this article again this is really fresh
but this subscription base by the way
will be coming out this month and middle
of September this will launch but it is
only launching with 20 games there they
haven't said that it's not going to go
into that that $20 will not include the
NES or other additional titles so it
could could include the NES the Sega
Genesis it could do that it probably
won't right it's probably gonna be the
base to your package just probably gonna
you know but but here's my problem
you're paying $20 for 20 games and
that's fine or $20 for 50 games let's
say they expand it to 50 by December
let's just say okay I still have the
entire library that I downloaded for
free and it took me less time to sign up
for this yes that's true but okay now
how many people listen to Pandora and
all those other strings well I
absolutely happened or even though I
have a plex server exactly and I paid
the 399 a month for Pandora I do pay
that and you could but the download and
you have that technology since the early
90s
and you're still doing I still did that
that is a great counterpoint I will say
that's absolutely a great counterpoint
my problem is the market the market that
they're shooting for is more of an
enthusiast and nostalgic market is and
if I go on Craigslist and I shop
SNES classic I get three SNES classics
at an obscene markup a little bunch of
Homer's and I get 20 SNES cases with
raspberry pies in them with retropie
that they're selling me for half the
price with two controllers with every
game that Nintendo has ever made oh yeah
you know well the thing is though that
that's what bugs me about these whole
like the NES classic the Super NES thing
that came in and now this one the Sega
Genesis announces their mega drive Mini
at least 15 hours of games this is what
is stopping you from doing the whole
library no stop there's nothing stopping
you other than this is completely
licensed right that's it I totally
understand that but helmet let's go to
the Nintendo let's let's keep the focus
on Nintendo because Nintendo is the one
waging the war yeah Nintendo is the one
waging the war against piracy against
emulation against there's a metallica
against the resurrection they're more
than Nickelback okay from from a
perspective yes you're right yeah
Metallica was the anti Napster yeah
Nickelback's just like someone's
listening to our song Nickelback got me
a wife right track but let's keep the
focus on Nintendo for a second what is
stopping them from releasing their
entire library for $20 a year nothing it
doesn't cost them a freaking diamond to
say otherwise is obscene no big
unintelligent yes it is
well there's intelligence in that they
saw that the per game industry was not
gonna work the NES classic came with 40
yeah that was still a second by herself
okay
ah two out of those 80 to 120 nes games
how many of those were actually good
though like 12 immediately exact well
that's why you say there's 40 ok there's
enough of you're probably gonna get
those 12 and then a couple of people I
really love that one little niche game
right that's it that's why they don't
need to release all of them because who
knows they might not even own the rights
all of them anymore and and I and I
totally see that but I guarantee they
have rights like a hundred and eighty of
them probably but they're let's say 50
the library and the thing is every
single game on that console is licensed
by Nintendo so if the company goes
extinct my thought is that the license
is still are owned by Nintendo they can
still market and sell those licenses
they might be thinking we might come up
with agentive right so but but but again
my point is 20 games yeah that's a slap
in the face oh oh no I have people that
work in my office they're like they were
on Amazon and eBay trying to buy this up
for like one night and I went to them
with a Raspberry Pi before your videos
like every game you ever want Plus Super
Nintendo plus a genesis plus and
everything else heck the program I you
built there's a secret ROM in it if you
type the right words right
you can play playstation on this [ __ ]
yeah exactly right
everyone's always asking how do I get
there like you have to figure it out but
right I miss even there this morning is
like playing Zach if you're watching I
was actually doing work by the way yep
sorry totally he works he works harder
than anyone you employ that's right I
totally totally does what a weird phrase
Nickelback gave me my wife but but again
20 games is a slap in the face it's an
absolute slap in the face and Nintendo's
not gonna listen to me they're not gonna
listen to anyone because they do what
they want they go well that problem is
this is not gonna change anything
this is not gonna change people let me
let in games this is not gonna change
downloads this is not gonna change ROM
sites clapping up this is not gonna
change anything this is gonna last which
users to play any at 20 different NES
games for twenty dollars a year it's
another revenue stream for Nintendo
yachty dot its fanservice and nothing
else this is not a full-fledged gaming
service on Netflix because we talked
about Nintendo possibly creating a
Netflix like service where you subscribe
to it for and honestly twenty dollars a
year is less than I thought it was gonna
be well no but that well that's what I
think if they're going for now it if it
was still twenty bucks here and then
they just continue to grow up but the
base price stayed the same
and and then you got the NES and the
Sega Genesis and the additional because
there's there's the online
playability and chat now they're doing
these let's just say let's just say
first party games let's just say first
party Nintendo
from NES to n64 which is totally
possible on switch Hardware in fact I
have it on good authority that you can
play GameCube games on switch arms yeah
you can emulate GameCube games at 30fps
on switch hardware you could be playing
Wind Waker right now but Nintendo's not
letting you and quite honestly I'd be
perfectly fine with like $70 a year if I
got Nintendo's entire first party
library for the switch for $70 you're
not including switch games yeah you get
me all of their handhelds and all of
their consoles up to the n64 and and
possibly GameCube I hope you find like
70 bucks a year yeah I'd pay it
willingly and and I already emulate this
crap I already have this crap on my
computer yeah but it's a fact I had to
switch and the great part about the
switch if they did that is the
portability of the switch absolutely is
a great tool I think that's what I
really loved about that particular part
it may not be the beefiest know things
but I loved the fact that they're like
look our community is now mobile let's
go with that and the thing is people go
oh emmalin is difficult not when you own
the source code to the original console
every single emulator that's ever been
built is reverse engineered if you own
the source code you can you do porta -
yeah exactly it's super easy right that
the the n64 was a was a 70 megahertz
console the Gamecube was a 312 the the
the switch is a Tegra 2 this work for
this is really more powerful than this
way it absolutely is I have a snapdragon
835 yes it's about it is more power for
the switch because the switch is the
Tegra 2 yeah we know what's in the
switch we know the power that's there
it's a slap in the face this is a slap
in the face
although did you did you see was its I
think it was sick I get Randy when I
have three beers yeah it was the one
thing you know I kind of kind of go back
to this okay
29th anniversary of the Sega Genesis
amazing uh second mini okay with 15
classic games - 15 classic games
oh whatever or at least um the one thing
just the ones we decide to release
okay cuz we all wanna play Sonic the
Hedgehog game we're gonna be golden axe
- on there oh yeah don't you contradict
me Altarpiece urban soul
nope was general chaos okay you but I
always hated the Sega controller the
three buttons three buttons ended oh
you're right
but the very last paragraph of them
saying that there's recent licensing out
to iOS and Android phones that I was
actually very intrigued about of them
they're going to do that including Sonic
the Hedgehog all the classic will the
originals like you're saying source code
will be put onto your phones now right
I'm not a big fan of the touchscreen
controllers but I I did like the fact
that you know there might be some actual
mobile classic games that are not
emulated are you alive that's gonna say
like his a lot know the spammers back
yeah so uh good job Bob I recently
contracted a a mod to keep track of our
chat and ban people that he sees fit so
he saw one fit what happened where is it
scroll oh my god my then why and why the
spanners back in live em live Johnny
Five yeah Jeff phone do I have I have
the essential phone the pH one and so
far I really like it there's a couple
things I dislike about it your review on
it I haven't done a review on it I was
wondering to do one I was wanting to use
it for a little bit longer
no yeah I've I've had the phone about
gosh almost two months yeah they're
about doesn't have a headphone jack and
actually ran into an issue with that
where I usually carry a set of Bluetooth
earbuds with me when I'm traveling and I
also curious said a wired headphones
when I'm traveling and I've set this
point every phone that I've ever had
a set of wiring headphones yeah well my
wired headphones are far more
comfortable than my bluetooth headphones
and in the airport I was getting a
little tired I'm like I'm just gonna
doze off here until my plane when it's
written to board I've got like an hour
and a half throw the plane boards he's
drinking beer right I'm told he was like
a five in the morning so uh I went okay
I'm a little tired my head kind of hurts
I just want to take a nap I'm just gonna
plug in my headphones so I don't drink
my booze with battery and God so and I
didn't have the dongle with me it's here
son okay I'll just use the Bluetooth
ones and the Bluetooth once worked fine
they they were okay the position of the
power button is actually way too low
that's like mid area it's in the center
of the phone it's it's right here
basically that's like where all of the
clamps of a lot of things would go right
so every single clamp that I have so if
I put it in my in my older in a car my
vertical holder I have to lift the phone
up to hit the power button and the
thumbprint thing is on the back to
unlock it and then and then I push it
back down so that's kind of a pain and
there's a couple of other like nitpicky
things that you'd only get from like
using the phone a lot yeah oh not the
hard works fantastic and I love the
software on it too so that's it's worked
very well yeah essential phone one yeah
I'll probably be getting the the Sentra
phone to sensor comes out too because I
liked home that much I want these
essential phone to you to have a little
bit better camera this one's okay it's
serviceable it's a decent camera it's
not a good camera hmm it's not an
excellent camera should I say so if I'm
comparing it to an iPhone 8 or an iPhone
X or a pixel or an LG whatever the the
rhythm x LG one was or a galaxy 9 it
falls behind those cameras okay it's
still better than the budget Android
phones but it's not a premium Android
phone yeah for a camera everything else
about this is premium and I like it you
want to get into Q&A a little Q&A we got
we got some a little bit yeah we got 10
15 20 minutes somewhere right in there
right there so QA anyway
chat about anything everyone who loves
physical keyboard should get the
BlackBerry - not according to Linus and
you should watch Linus this video if
you're interested in that because the
physical keyboard is not as good as it
used to be and touchscreen keyboards are
far better than they used to be and yeah
I'll let you watch him and I full ant I
fully agree with everything that he said
it was very funny or we were talking
about the steam and that the controller
I was actually almost thinking it'll be
great is if they had like a flip out
screen with a swipe keyboard on it yeah
that would be fantastic
that would make internet browsing and
everything so much easier is it better
than a pixel XL with an unlocked
bootloader um I would say it's on par
it's a snapdragon 835 so it's a very
fast phone it's got eight gigabytes of
RAM it's got 64 gigs of storage or 128
gigs of storage and the phone is
findable SD card no SD card but I'm 28
game right but how are the chairs why do
they call it a pair of pants when it's
only one
how are the chairs inaudible leg yeah so
Gambia's leisure tomorrow you'll see
you'll see the video tomorrow I have an
unboxing and early impressions video of
these chairs but we'll get into it in
the livestream I love the chairs how do
you how do you think build up chair yep
okay when I first got here before we
went left I said they were a little
stiff um and you said you wouldn't be
comfortable sitting in it for two hours
yeah and you know what it's it's not bad
it's it's oh it's a lot better than I
thought it was gonna be it really is
well you know what I really love is that
there's so much adjustability and this
thing that it almost makes you want to
just play with it yeah constantly okay
I've been doing this oh yeah I go back
that goes way from Yakima yeah I have my
locked for the show but student I could
freaking sleep with you it almost goes
completely like and there's the
thumbnail
[Laughter]
so no no this is the gam DS Achilles m1l
um so far I really really enjoy the
chair yeah and um it really does it hugs
you it's a little stiff for me but it
helps you so much that it's nice it's
stiff but it provides a lot of support
yeah and we're coming from a really bad
place for chair so it's really hard to
compare to what we had to what we have
now oh yeah I did I just saw basically I
saw in the same chair because of fit hey
Jeff you under Windows Update right now
no another time perhaps
Jeff I should live stream the r-tx
announcement I will be at work during
the RT X announcement I will be watching
it though have you seen the nerve to the
new rock 64 with PCIe x4 graphic
competing I have not I'll have to google
that trying to decide what I want to get
when I replaced my lumia 640 ooh ouch
bro yeah you definitely want to plays
that was a specified that Nintendo was
only going after ROM sites or against
browser brace emulators both both yeah
we're we're loved roms and love retro
went wrong was he bragged about how
successful he was yeah he had numbers
that was posted publicly that Nintendo
said oh yeah every single one of those
numbers you posted that's a direct loss
from Nintendo which number one is bull
the the copyright law does not equate to
a sale or a theft and technically a
theft can only be four times the
judgment of or a judgment can only be
four times the amount of the theft so if
you steal 250 dollars you can get 1250
back that's how that's how that works
or excuse me so 250 gets you a thousand
one viewing of intellectual property on
a website does not equate to $1,000,000
or two million dollars in lost intend oh
sorry
it doesn't those numbers don't work that
way although if your Disney apparently
they do and this needs ones that keeps
upping that copyright violence can I do
some SPC videos in the future I've
thought about doing this missed some SPC
I really want to get a couple of the the
amd-v 1000's pcs the system-on-chip
risin systems I have a whole bunch of
raspberry PI's and I dink around with
them but I'm not an authority on them
and that's why I haven't done anything
this farm I did the one video with the
the annotation system the retro
emulation system I administrate Linux
professionally but I'm not necessarily a
Linux guru I would say I know my way
around it and I can do some basic things
but the SBC's a lot of times you get
into the hardware manipulation and I am
NOT an electronics engineer i-i-i suck
with arduino Zhai suck hard with arduino
s-- so I don't know that I'm really the
source you want to see for SBC stuff so
not that I'm not interested in it and I
don't know him like 20 of them yeah I
literally own like 20s because like when
I first met Jeff he had a server room
yeah at work on my desk I have a quad
cluster of Raspberry Pi galleys so so
those desk chairs are like racing seats
in a card they're designed similar
they're wider than that they're built
for gamers not for drivers shall I say
yeah little girthier than I prefer
mom room yeah I'm giving you nightmares
doing that what I think is the lying
back I don't know I don't know
yeah I'm assuming I hope I'm about four
of them for next for the next
anniversary vid well he didn't buy any
of these that I asked though when he got
these like oh so do we get to take these
homes they oh no they're just for the
shoes yeah you didn't ask
Hayek hard enough yeah John it's my
first dealing with this coming oh yeah
whatever it was hi there what about
freeness tutors if you use any if you
use it yo you you already did a free
I've done for necessary I think I think
he's asking what about free nests
tutorial if you use it I do have some
videos coming up hopefully late this
month or early September with a couple
more free nice tutorials one of them is
gonna be a review of the FreeNAS mini
which is their pre-configured free nasty
oh yes I tell so if you're afraid of
building your own server not sure what
to do you can
by one of their servers for starting it
like $900 yeah I'm assuming the other
video is how to fix the freeness right
no the other video I've got two
different options that I'm looking out
right now one of which I've been playing
around with for a little while and and
that is well one of them I know I'm
gonna do for sure and that's doing a
whole home backup system mm-hmm so how
do I back up all of my computers to a
central location and not have to worry
about centralized data mean and make
sure that if this computer dies or this
SSD dies that that data is safe that's
that's video number one video number two
is going to be okay so I subscribe to a
VPN but I don't want to configure the
VPN on every single device that I have
or maybe they don't make a client for
the v4 the yeah so I want my Roku to go
through a VPN because I use X XS b c or
x XB XB CD or whatever it's called XBMC
there we go xbox media center and I use
XBMC and I don't want people knowing
that I do that online I'm not like you
have to be hidden or a torrent from
there I use popcorn TV or whatever the
case may be and I'm gonna and I want to
hide that bad info I have a method of
creating an ubuntu gateway that connects
to your VPN that all you have to do is
set your default gateway to that server
and it will route you through your VPN
it's the same as being connected
directly to your VPN and you still have
local network traffic access Oh whereas
right now if I connect to like Nord VPN
via my smart phone my smart phone
connects to the VPN but then I don't
have local network access yeah I can't
stream to a chromecast device if I'm
connect to do a VPN SA I'm interested in
that right so I'm still working on
getting it to what I would consider like
consumer-facing ready where I'm willing
to put it in a video and everyone use it
mm-hmm because it's a little it works
once it's up but it will require some
network knowledge and I'm trying to get
it accessible to everyone there yeah so
so that one's a maybe I haven't working
here and I'll show you it working out of
the show but yeah so that's an option
have you seen the gamecube we emulator
for Android I have
dolphin 5 yes I have seen that face in
Carnival what's a wild guess for what
the cpu market will be like this time
next year it will be flipped completely
on its head right now it's about 30
percent rise in 70% until I believe it
will be 70 percent rise in 30% Intel as
far as the consumer space goes I think
server space may be even higher than
that that's my gut feeling is that AMD
is going to kick the absolute living
crap out of Intel because in total
doesn't have anything left by a four to
net four to Wi-Fi VPNs everywhere and
you can absolutely do that as well also
if you use a pfSense firewall you can
use Open VPN and route all your traffic
through your open VPN and shoot all your
traffic through there but the point of
using a VPN gateway in your network is
like my streaming PC I don't do anything
on this PC that I wouldn't want prying
eyes to see I stream to the Internet and
I want full service I want my gig down
30 up yeah um if I have services that I
don't necessarily want prying eyes to
see then I can send that service to
review p.m. and so if I have another PC
or a laptop or I want to do I was at the
chair by the way if you hear those
noises that's just the chairs yeah I'm
still getting used to my position yeah
but if I have a device that I want to
rock through a VPN say I have a Roku TV
and I want to watch Norwegian TV or BBC
or something like that and the app is
only available over there well I can
wrap my Roku through that that gateway
and get BBC or watch other countries
broadcast or I can all kinds of options
yeah
so it's designed for I don't want to
necessarily configure the VPN on this
device but I want that device to go
through that VPN sometimes so that's the
thought behind it and again I'm still
working on how do I want to say that how
do I want to script it how do I want to
explain it and does it actually freakin
work all the time yeah how fail so
what's one plus one it's for 11 thoughts
on the ubiquity pro summer products for
access points the Lintz access points
are freaking awesome
we've got some of the ACH D points which
supposedly support up to 450 wireless
devices per access point yeah via five
by Nemo which is absolutely insane you
skipped over the best question I don't
mean having a taco video coming out
oh yes yes that I have a taco video
coming out yeah hop some brews watch for
that anyway black bird he has a 2700
exiting 90 C which is a little toasty
for that ship you chefs wool shouldn't
really be getting above 85 on that chip
so what cooler are you using although
you're running at one point three six
two five volts I'd still be curious at
what cooler you're using and maybe you
just lost the silicon lottery that
happens sometimes sometimes your chip
heats up too far I'm surprised your race
I'm surprised you're stable at 4.2 at 90
C I honestly am
that's quite warm yeah I mean that
that's a heater you're running now right
speaking of VPNs what's your opinion on
split tunneling you could totally do
that and that's similar to what I was
talking to with the gateway where some
of my traffic goes here some of my
traffic goes there yeah a lot of that is
gonna be rule defined within a firewall
and again if you're in a pfsense box you
can totally do something like that what
I'm talking about on the network is
sending all of my traffic from this
device through the VPN without
configuring it on that device so ban
John for advertising ban John for
self-promotion hey some of my segments
segways are pretty good that you were on
point today yeah I will say this and you
know what it's two hours and five
minutes all right hop some brews check
them out what like that muting John for
five minutes
John's here John's here
John's here John's here John's here so
one thing I'm trying to do on Talking
Heads is as the channel is or as the
show has evolved its gotten much more
long win
much more I'll say too long-winded and a
little esoteric we've gotten off point
way too many times I'll say it's gotten
a little esoteric if you know me and if
you know John and if you know Stephen
you know Rhett you know exactly what
we're talking about well we've gotten
into way too many personal stories and
and well not what I'm trying to do
really starting today it's kind of turn
over a new leaf where we stay on our
points we actually have time limits for
our stories which we stay to 40 well
even after a 15 minute late start yeah
we stayed on point it wasn't cuz I was
late right so alone so we're still gonna
do our off-topic rants but I'm trying to
really limit those because we've done
three hour shows where I still only did
70% of the topping points that I wanted
to get to and and so I I want the shows
to be much more topical much more
digestible for people who are coming to
the channel to get their news yeah so
this is kind of stage one of this
process I haven't set up a timer yet I'm
looking at a feature to do Auto
timestamps pretty good though but this
was a very very smooth show yeah it
wasn't a very heavy news week though it
wasn't but there were some there was no
there were some big things but that was
the thing it was there was just like two
maybe three big things and that was it
and that's what we only had like three
big tech points yeah there were and what
I'm trying to do is really get on to two
or three good talking points and that's
what the show is gonna be about yeah I
still basically what I'm doing is we get
into the show for five minutes so we
talk about the week talk about what's
going on that was my highest for us
today
that was my ISP ran today we do 15
minutes of beer news so we do two to
three news articles that we can fit into
15 minutes and we talk about those and
by the time those are done we can open a
second beer and we can get into tech
news and that worked perfectly today
yeah and my tech news segments I want to
do two to three big news stories and
then a couple smaller ones though so so
two to five smaller news stories so hey
Sega unveiled the Genesis mini
and it's gonna be available starting in
September Forex price with 15 games with
15 games moving on
that's a news point I don't need to
spend a lot of time on it and it was
related to the Nintendo subscription
service and I was really to do this and
was really do that so trying to get more
cohesive in our news telling trying to
get just more digestible yeah everyone
trying to make things flow a lot easier
yep so so hope everyone enjoyed this
show I know I sure did it is 10:08 p.m.
and I think I'm gonna talk about a
pretty good night yeah no cocktails
tonight for no cocktails tonight yeah
well well on camera now on camera we my
soul d1 so there's been episode 45
you're talking yes I never officially
said we never say oh the guy said like
can we never sit on Jeff I'm John
welcome to the show everyone and I hope
you have a fantastic evening or night or
morning wherever you're whatever you're
watching wherever you may be tonight
today wherever this house may lie oh
good