hey everybody how's it going today i'd
like to talk about what happened to my
good friend and colleague jessa jones
while driving her tesla model 3 that had
autopilot engaged she also has the full
self-driving package that smashed into a
deer with autopilot enabled her video is
on her channel ipad rehab and i will
link to it down below i'd like to
discuss a little bit of my experience
using autopilot a little bit of my
experience driving in areas that are
filled with deers admittedly as an
inexperienced driver i just got my
driver's license in march of this year
and
some of the problems that people have
had with autopilot and why i find it
particularly interesting that this is
the direction in which autopilot failed
and i'd also like to just
talk a little bit about the way that
this feature is advertised so the first
thing i want to do is actually go over
the incident as it occurred so we have
dash cam footage here from her car all
teslas have a little usb drive in the in
the glove box and it is recording from
all of the cameras so let's take a look
at that so she's driving along on one of
these roads late at night and you can
see right over here that's the deer and
the deer is not in the road yet and
she's getting closer the deer
finally is making a run for it he has
crossed over the line and ow
no more deer so just to play that one
more time the deer is behind the line
it's not stopping and then it just sees
oh look a car coming let me just smash
right into that car now i can't tell you
how far away she was from the deer when
the deer finally crossed over the line
because they don't have any of those
segmented lines in the road here as they
do in other areas many people don't know
this but there are those lines on the
road those white lines that you see in a
lot of different roads and those lines
are about 10 feet in length and the
length between those lines is 30 feet in
length you can use those lines to
calculate how fast the car is going if
you don't have a speedometer on screen
and you can also use it to calculate the
distance between the car and something
else i can't tell you what speed jessa
was going nor can i tell you how far the
car was from the deer when it hit it now
i'm surprised that autopilot failed in
this way as someone who has used
autopilot before and seen its failure
its failure is typically not that it
misses something it's failure at least
in my experience with different teslas
that i've tried in the past have been
that it does the opposite where it does
something called phantom breaking where
it thinks something is in front of it
when nothing is actually in front of it
and it has phantom braking so when i
first tried a tesla with autopilot i had
my foot hovering over the brake
expecting that it wasn't going to stop
but that was actually incorrect i should
have had my foot hovering over the
accelerator because what it'll do and
people theorize this is because of the
way radar works and just issues with the
data it gets from radar it'll think
something's in front of it and then
it'll try to stop immediately and you
need to correct it by smashing on the
accelerator so that the car behind you
doesn't rear-end you if you're going 60
miles an hour on the highway
stopping short is a really bad thing
particularly if the person behind you is
tailgating you as 99 of the drivers in
this city full of [ __ ] called new
york city tend to do
so this is
really surprising to me that again this
really does seem to be biased in my
experience towards always stopping when
it sees or even remotely thinks
something may be in front of it
for it to not tell that there was a deer
here there was several posts and
comments in jess's video feed saying you
know this was the most easily
preventable deer accident because you
could see the deer from quite far away
it's not like he came galloping at full
speed he was walking pretty slowly and
you could tell that he wasn't stopping
his pace and then it goes over here
now i don't think once you're over here
that there's any chance of you stopping
for the deer let me just talk about my
experience with deer i don't like once
you're at this point
you're that deer is done for if you're
on a road with a 50 or 60 mile an hour
speed limit perhaps those in the in the
comment section who have more experience
driving or who drive higher in vehicles
can let me know if it's possible to stop
i would imagine that once you're over
here
the the chances of you or over there the
chances of you actually stopping short
are fairly low if if your car is even
able to stop short
even if you actually do notice the deer
at that point is your car even actually
able to stop short with that type of
distance what i do on these roads is
when i see the deer over here i go from
50 miles an hour to
45 to 40 to 35 to 30. typically on the
roads that i've been on that have deer
like this late at night they're not
roads like what you have in new york
city where there's always someone behind
you all the time is gonna honk the
moment you go less than five miles an
hour above the speed limit when i was
driving through jess's area there were a
lot of dead deer on the road so i
figured okay i should be vigilant for
this and when i see a deer i slowed down
there was nobody behind me on this road
since there was nobody behind me on this
road i am not bothering anybody if i'm
going 30 in a 50.
so i slowed down because i know what
that deer is going to do and when i went
to visit jessa i was driving right down
this very same road and a deer was
stopped right over there so i went 30
miles an hour it started to go into the
street so then i stopped and then i
waited for about two seconds put my
hazard lights on i stopped for the deer
and then the moment i went to put my
foot in the accelerator he tried to jump
in front of my car again like really you
dumb animal and then i stopped again and
then i yelled at it and then i played
some heavy metal music out the window
and i honked and then he finally ran
across the road and then i went back to
to driving but it is fairly easy to hit
deer because they have this thing where
they really do appear to love jumping in
front of your vehicle they love jumping
in front of the car where jessa lives i
would imagine she's probably the only
person that actually even owns a tesla
when i visited her everything i saw was
a dodge pickup truck a ford f-150 a
chevy silverado it was it was a bunch of
pickup trucks it was very few people had
sedans and even fewer people that in
that particular area had teslas the only
tesla i saw was jesus so all those dead
deer that i saw on the side of the road
when i was driving up there i imagine
we're not people that were killing deer
because of autopilot these were normal
average everyday people driving their
car like normal average everyday people
killing a deer now we can argue over how
good the average everyday driver in new
york actually is but i did see a lot of
comments in that thread saying autopilot
should be made illegal this is horrible
look at what it did
when at the end of the day
even drivers that do not have autopilot
in their car that are not using it that
are driving on their own
are killing a lot of deer i don't think
all those deer on the side of the road
were killed by teslas where she lives
maybe that argument could be made in an
area where everybody's buying an
electric car but
not there that's mostly f-150s and
silverados that i saw while i was well i
was up there and the thing that but the
thing that that gets me is that a car
that as on numerous occasions just tried
to stop short on a highway when i was
traveling 60 to 70 miles an hour
when there's nothing in front of it just
because it thinks something maybe in
front of it doesn't stop when there's an
actual deer that you can tell is
continuing its path onto the road so
like once it's made its way over here at
this point i think the car should have
at least tried to slow down with
autopilot engaged and it did not which
then you know again many people will say
you should be paying attention you
should be paying attention it's your
fault and
uh you know i do believe in personal
responsibility and accountability for
the driver absolutely at the same time
jessa has made an interesting argument
which is that our brain is designed to
filter out information that
it deems unnecessary and if you're
driving for one or two or four or eight
hours and the car is doing all the work
for you at some point due to the way
your brain works you're not going to be
able to pay attention the same way that
you otherwise would unless you were
spending that entire time paranoid
saying i know this is going to crash i
know this is going to crash i know it's
going to crash in order for you to
actually use autopilot
you need to at some extent trust the
vehicle you need to have some level of
trust in it or you're going to be
panicked the entire time and once you
get yourself into that trustful state
even if you have your hands on your
wheel even if you're watching it's not
the same as if you're driving without
autopilot on and what gets me in
particular is when people will say
you know this is not you know
autopilot's fault in any way shape or
form this is just a beta they should
know they have to pay attention at all
times the thing that gets me about it is
the way it is advertised so when you
just go to tesla's website check out a
model three when you scroll down full
self driving capability add to cart like
full self driving capability now if they
called it safety assist that would be
one thing if they called it you know
semi-self-driving capability
then again you know okay fine but they
it went out of their way to call it full
self-driving capability and the reason
they go out of their way to call it full
self-driving capability is because and
i'm just gonna go out on a limb here i'm
gonna take a wild guess that
if it was not full self-driving
capability you'd probably have a lesser
chance of getting ten thousand bucks out
of everybody that decides to buy this
option you know semi or maybe you're in
the future self-driving capability
somebody may pay 500 bucks for that
maybe 2 000 they ain't going to pay 10k
for that the 10k really comes from
calling it something that it is not now
they do have this little disclaimer over
here that currently enable features
require active driver supervision and do
not make the vehicle autonomous bloody
blah blah and of course that is going to
be the small print over here the small
print is going to be the cover your ass
the big bold print at the top that's
actually going to sell you is calling it
full self-driving and you could call it
anything else but
that's what they call it
full
so it you know if i call something a
full logic board repair but two of your
usb ports don't work it only works on a
charger not on the battery and your
webcam only works if you uh i don't know
if you have bluetooth enabled that's
just
it's not a full logic border pair like
for me to use that word full there is a
real uh there is something to that which
is why i titled this video uh full self
driving zero accountability because if
it wasn't for that word full then i
probably wouldn't give tesla as much
[ __ ] as i give them and i'm not someone
who thinks that this should be illegal
i'm not someone that thinks that nobody
should ever use this feature i'm just
saying that the way that they word this
in my opinion is weaselly and [ __ ]
when you get full self-driving you're
not actually getting full self-driving
that's the other thing what you're
getting is the opportunity to at some
point in time apply for the full
self-driving beta which is when you
actually see the word beta which is what
this is by the way the word beta does
not appear over here this the word beta
is just not here when you actually pay
for full self driving capability that's
not what you get you get navigate on
autopilot which allows the the car to
make lane changes and then make exits on
the highway for you but once you
actually get to a town or a city it's
not doing any driving for you whatsoever
unless you have full self-driving beta
which a you may not be eligible for
after pay after you pay ten thousand
dollars and b is a [ __ ] beta and the
word beta does not show up on this
webpage and make no mistake that is what
this is a beta this is more beta than
the people posting in rich rebuilds
comment section you get auto lane change
which works well you get auto park which
is absolutely not a meme this should
barely ever works at all even when a
parking lot with no other cars you get
summon which is a semi meme you get the
full self-driving computer which really
does kind of imply that a computer is
going to be fully self-driving for you
and you get traffic light and stop sign
control which is uh iffy at best i
would have no problem with this feature
being marketed as semi-self-driving or
driver assist and i don't think that
this should be made illegal i just think
that the word full self-driving that we
use of that word full is really really
pushing it really disingenuous and real
[ __ ] and i know what my comment
section is going to be lewis they should
have read the fine print why didn't they
read the fine print to which i always
respond to
why
create fine print that corrects the lie
in your own advertising why not simply
fix your own advertising and not call it
something that it is clearly not
i would venture to guess that the
average person with this particular deer
crash would have been able to spot this
and correct it
early on because again the the times
where i've been very very close to
hitting a deer before both in brookfield
wisconsin and where jessa is luckily i
did not hit the deer even though i am an
inexperienced driver as i said i got my
license in march of this year i spent
about two or three weeks practicing in a
97 beat up broken surprise that [ __ ]
even turned on toyota corolla it was a
97 toyota corolla that was in horrible
horrible shape i got a couple of weeks
of practice i took my i took my my test
and i passed but i would not consider
myself a highly experienced driver since
i don't even have one year under my belt
and i think even i would have seen this
[ __ ] and stopped again if my car is
going to stop which teslas frequently do
everybody who's used autopilot has had
an episode of phantom breaking and it
scared the piss out of you i know that
for a fact and if you've had the
experience if it's stopping because it
thinks it sees something
maybe slow down a little for this again
i'm not even saying stop all the way
maybe slow down a little just for this
now there are people that have said well
it's not autopilot's fault because
you're actually supposed to plow through
the animal so that you don't create a 20
car pile up on the highway
point taken but however it must also be
taken into consideration that this
vehicle not only has sensors on all
sides but also has a camera on all sides
this vehicle knows if there's a car
behind it it needs to be able to tell
that so that it knows what to do in
cases of lane changes in order for the
automatic lane changing to work it needs
to be able to sense that there's a car
behind me and the car is actually so
smart when it comes to this that if i
tell it to change a lane
it's not going to change that lane even
if it's clear if it sees that the person
behind me is going 25 miles above the
speed limit and or 30 miles an hour
faster than me in the lane next door
it's going to say you know what i want
to be safe with this i'm not going to
make the lane change right now i will
wait until the speeding dude stops even
though you likely have the clearance to
make the lane change it's smart enough
to do that which means i would imagine
it's smart enough to be able to tell
wait a second there's nobody behind me
on this road there's nobody behind me so
if i slow down a little bit just to
check out what this is that's not going
to be the end of the world which would
then
give the person behind the steering
wheel more time to react and would also
give the autopilot system in full
driving self-driving computer more time
to react which it clearly did not if
you're going to stop for no good reason
can you at least stop for a deer i'm not
asking you to stop for a deer when you
got 20 cars behind you and someone with
a one car following distance but on an
empty road where there's nobody behind
you which was the case here that would
most certainly be something that i i
believe is doable again are you going to
be able to stop at this point like when
you're right here that that's debatable
like at this point i don't think there's
anything you can do that deer is done
for but
on the side of the road
there is something that can be done now
there's also the argument of can you
expect a car to tell a deer from a human
if there's a human waiting on the side
of the road you probably don't want
autopilot to just stop because it does
every time there is something
on the right side of the line
there is many times where there's
something on the right side of the line
whether it is a police car that has
pulled somebody over or a service
vehicle and you don't want your car to
slow down at zero miles an hour
automatically every time there's
something on the right side of the line
and it may be rather rather difficult
for the vehicle or the ai to be able to
tell with this low resolution [ __ ]
sensor that they're still using in 2021
in spite of it being an expensive
vehicle but i'll save that salt for
another video to be able to tell that
that is a deer and not a human from
further away like when you're over here
i mean that that's a pixel like i can
tell you that's a deer because i know
it's a deer and i'm a human but to an ai
like when you have a camera that's
barely 720p and you you're working with
this like that's a pixel right there and
you know it it's only when you get up
here that you can even imagine that
being a four-legged creature either way
let me know what you think in the
comments down below what do you think of
this crash what do you think is
autopilot's culpability what do you
think is tesla's culpability for calling
something full self-driving when at best
by their own admission in their own fine
print this is semi-self-driving or
safety assist and what do you think of
the legality of these features going
forward i personally believe that they
should change the way they advertise it
but i am all for these features
continuing to exist even if again as
jessa posted in her video it is
impossible to be able to continuously
pay attention for long periods of time
due to the way your brain works if
you're going to use this feature i still
think that these features should be
allowed should be able to be used and
not be taken away simply because of
accidents like this and again we do have
lots of people crashing into deer
without autopilot if the amount of dead
deer on the road near jessa is any
indication let me know what you think in
the comments down below that's it for
today and as always i hope you learned
something i'll see you all in the next
video bye now