let's move on opposition leader Peter
Dutton has pledged to ditch Labor's 2030
climate Target in exchange for a focus
on nuclear power and Net Zero by 2050 if
he wins the next election under the
Paris agreement Australia is meant to
cut emissions by
43% of the 2005 Levels by 2030 but the
Coalition argue and I think it's pretty
obvious to everyone that goal is
unachievable now some have been claiming
that this would have us kicked out of
the Paris Accord though that was somehow
a bad thing but Nationals leader David
little proud
disagrees that's totally false to think
that by us not meeting our 2030 Target
would see is kicked out of it we are
committed to our 2050 Target in fact at
the larest cop meeting in the UAE most
countries will fall short of their 2030
Target so what we've said is let's be
honest let's look Australians in the eye
and say not even this government's going
to make their 2030 Target cuz they can't
get to 82% Renewables by 2030 there's
not the supply chain to do it I mean
what what is the point Joe of continuing
with the 2030 Target when we all know it
ain't going to happen well I the point
is David little proud seems to be
talking at odds even with himself you
have countries that aren't going to meet
the targets plenty of countries out I
mean not meeting climate targets is a
national Pastime for every single
country that signs up to them not it's
like it's like ignoring un conventions
on human rights but um but but that's
different to actually junking the Target
and saying well we're not even going to
try anymore so that that is the
difference so it's not saying well we're
not going to meet the target is one
thing the question is are you even going
to try and and again it's a pretty weird
thing to be doing because I even if the
Coalition wins the next election next
year which it can't forming minority
government can't it almost certainly
cannot win the N the numbers just don't
allow it so that would mean that it
would be hoping to get in in what 2028
at the earliest and then have what two
years to suddenly meet this target I
mean it's it's it doesn't matter what
the Coalition says about this it's just
structurally not in a place to be able
to meet the Target or not well sure I
mean but the opposition's going to take
a stand on they kind to sit there on
their plenty of things the opposition
simply says nothing on I think the fact
that it has come out and quite clearly
said we are going to junk this target
when it didn't need to say anything at
all shows that Dunton is positioning
himself um very very firmly away from
all the climat I think he's shown that
he's given up on the teal seats um yet
again as I had said at the time this
shows that the teals have actually
simply pushed the liberal party to the
right on climate um but and and why
would they go anywhere else because they
can't get those seats back and so they
might as well just say well we're not
even going to pretend to care about it
anymore we're just going to go after
bread and butter issues out in the
suburbs in the region so well done teals
you managed to get the 2030 Paris
agreement target jump and the point of
course Natalia is that you know the
average person in and out of suburban
seat is looking at their power bill
every time it comes in and and can see
very clearly that the the concept of
Renewable Power being the cheapest form
of power available is a lie it's not
evident in their power bills they
haven't got the
$275 that the PM and others promised ad
nauseum what Daton is doing here is
saying well no uh we we need to take a
stand and do something to try and arrest
uh what is clearly out of control I
don't think that's a Los for him in any
y or oh no absolutely D showed
leadership and not not just showed
leadersh leadership but she showed much
needed leadership in the liberal party
and um because what's going on in the
Liberal Party there's lots of the the
so-called labor light people that's
plucked this whole party and D had the
courage to step up and separate himself
from these clones of labor party in the
liberal party and was um courage enough
to say no we're saying no to Paris and
Paris indeed is a poison the energy bill
will go through the roof like no
tomorrow has you you you are involved in
the lay party the the Liberal Party the
fight in Victoria right should know so
it's a slightly different what what what
is what is the fight like within the
party between those wets and those dries
when it comes to stuff like this CU I
mean the liberal party in Victoria is
staffed and it's staff like this that
they really need to start driving home
if they ever want to form government
again particularly on a state level down
there oh yeah the fractalization within
the party especially in Victoria within
the liberal party is through the roof
it's not tomorrow we cannot win anything
if not we not won we're fighting inside
the party and that's absolutely uh
inappropriate and what's that done
that's it's a light at the end of the
tunnel so he took on leadership for
change I'm glad to see him actually
doing it Paul because I mean plenty of
us have said this for ages that that
just just cast all this as died and he's
actually had the guts to do it look I'm
not going to go full eway elbow on you
but hear me out um I think that clearly
Peter Dutton has seen the advantage of
drawing a great contrast with what he
considers to be or what is considered to
be the only opinion that possibly is out
there remember 6040 yes when he comes
out and says no and it ends up getting
6040 when it comes to the uh to The
Voice the 3D chess of this is a that
Trump becomes the president at the end
of this year which would mean that the
United States would also take a sizable
step back from a series of commitments
under the Biden regime uh I say that
just for the census that are
watching um uh so but the flip side is
of the 10 seats that get him halfway to
getting near 60s let alone 70s which of
those seats it's flipped now um I
understand that the national party is
very clear Dump Dump Dump they're trying
to say we're focused on 2050 not 20130
but there are a lot of seats like say
Higgins which currently may or may not
exist um seats like boothby um there's a
lot of benal along there's a lot of
seats in the next 10 that they need to
win from labor that I'm not entirely
sure are all in on burn the Paris
agreement I hate the Paris agreement
because it says China is a developing
country when China has apparently landed
on the moon recently um they are not a
developing country and they don't even
have to start measuring things till 2030
so I completely agree that it is a
flawed document but I think we should be
honest about potentially flawed politics
that comes out of this um people hate
power bills but then equally as as as uh
as Joe and I know cuz we've thought
about this for how long which is Pauling
will tell you I want action on climate
change are you willing to pay for it no
well as soon as you pick one of those
yeah the other one starts to gain in
strength because you ignored it so I'm
just saying it's not as clean cut as
look there's a lot of Focus right now in
this discussion about what are the
politics about this announcement but
also it's about energy stability and
having energy security
because does have solution to Emissions
on the table that's exactly and I mean
okay okay it's going to take longer but
so many countries have embraced or are
starting to embrace nuclear as an answer
to the climate problem so you don't have
to be a climate skeptic or a climate
change skeptic to see that this could be
a long-term solution yes it's expensive
we hear the arguments yes it will take
longer to get there but if we're looking
at the long-term future for a reliable
source of energy clean energy then this
could be the answer