there was an interesting moment um
between Tucker Carlson and Glenn
Greenwald on Tucker's new show on X or
Twitter formerly known as Twitter about
the censorship that is currently going
on against the pro Palestinian movement
here in the United States here's what
they both had to say what's so
terrifying to me though is that the
right the American political right which
really was to this kind of weird
transformation that's happened over the
past dozen years has become the lone
Defenders of the First Amendment they've
abandoned
that in the last month like instantly so
I think you could say you know I
strongly support Israel I strongly
dislike Kamas I'm I'm rooting maybe I
think we should commit troops to the
region I mean whatever you can have any
view you want however American citizens
have a right to express their opinion
period and that supersedes any other
event in any other country it's like
that's a core right and I don't hear
many conservatives saying that and so
you sort of Wonder like if they're not
defending it who
will I mean there are people who have
built their careers Tucker over the last
five six years standing up and saying we
can't have cancel culture we can't have
censorship college students aren't
entitled to feelings of safety we don't
censor in order to protect people from
views they find threatening mocking the
notion that minority groups are
vulnerable and we have to censor in
order to protect them turn on a dime and
now become the leading vo of saying
because American Jew feel unsafe that's
valid in a way that say claims from
black people or lgbts or Latinos aren't
valid and because of that we need to
censor show me the lie yeah he right I'm
glad to hear Tucker on that it's a
tragedy that that's not getting
mainlined to the Fox News Boomers and
they're getting Jessie Waters instead I
can't even imagine what the hell is
going on uh over there but it it does
show you a massive split you know in the
conservative movement right now where
for you know and I think Glenn's point
is so important it's what I was talking
about in our a block when you adopt the
language of safetyism you immediately
fail and it's because it goes into the
framework of like you deserve like
complete emotional certitude and not to
be able to be challenged as Tucker said
if you're an American citizen you can
say anything that you want and should be
protected by the law we should go out of
our way even the apports this is what
the beauty of the ACLU case is that even
the speech we find the worst the most
objectionable out you know outside the
bounds of polite conversation many
standard deviations away straight up
Nazis we still protect it because the
precedent itself is so important and
unfortunately actually really what we've
done is we are emboldening these campus
apparates to because now they can be
like well you wanted us to you called us
in to protect against the Hamas people
so next time there's some George Floyd
BS we're going to do whatever we want
whenever it comes to censoring uh
somebody or driving them off campus or
posting their phot be like this is a
person who didn't sign on they didn't
put up the black Square you know how far
away are we from that it already
happened yeah and you know I mean
college kids that's one piece freid but
the P the piece that is more disturbing
is where the Nexus of um censorship and
state power come into play absolutely
and so when you have you know Ronda
santis out there like the doj needs to
investigate and um actively going after
these student groups and also this
really gross conflation of I do not deny
that there are people that are out there
that are saying atrocious directly
anti-semitic things I think it's
disgusting I think it needs to stop um
directly advocating or celebrating Hamas
and the atrocities on October 7th
disgusting right but there's also this
conflation of anyone that has a critique
of US government policy or Israeli
government policy as being an
anti-semite or being in uh in
collaboration or celebration of Hamas
and that's wrong and it's disgusting and
it's something the Biden Administration
is engaged in as well I mean they called
calls for a ceasefire a position held by
two thirds of Americans they called that
position
repugnant they likened people who are
attending uh Pro Palestinian protest all
of them not just like The Fringe
extremists to the neo-nazis that marched
in Charlottesville I it's insane and
this is happening all over the I mean
Republicans have gone all in you just
have to listen to the debate last night
aside from VI to hear that sort of
language although he also you know goes
pretty far in terms of condemning
everybody who has any sort of a
dissonant view on this as well he just
doesn't want them to be censored or like
arrested or whatever but to go back to
what is going to continue to be a
consistent theme have we learned nothing
after the war on terror have we learned
nothing after our failed response in 911
have we learned nothing about how
dangerous it was to give the state so
much power of surveillance so much power
of censorship and say and justify it all
in the name of National Security I mean
that's effectively what we're doing here
all over again and giving them all the
tools that they could possibly need and
do you think it's just going to be used
against the people you don't happen to
like no never stays in that one lane the
tools they acquired in the war on terror
have been used against many different
ideological groups they have been
consistently expanded over time and we
are just handing them even more power to
weaponize those very same tools I think
you are absolutely correct that's a
great place to end it uh we really
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