if you don't pay close attention to Joe
Biden you're probably content to dismiss
him as just a scile old fool who's
exiting the stage at high
speed but if you actually listen to him
if you watch what Joe Biden says it
Dawns on you actually this man is evil
actually evil listen to what he says
it's dishonest it's vicious it's cruel
to his fellow Americans he's a bad
person and he's the president of the
United States and yet no one seems to
say that out loud or even notice instead
our moral superiors our overlords are
very exercised about well some people
you've probably not even heard of people
on the internet who are saying true
things and one of the people who makes
the maddest is a guy really an account
called cat turd yes that's the name one
word on X formally Twitter cat turd has
millions of followers and is remarkably
remarkably controversial for a person
whose name has never been spoken spoken
in public he actually got into a fight
with Adam kininger no less than Adam
kininger speaking of evil here's in case
You' forgotten it here's what it looked
like Kinser made that clear the other
day when he responded personally to a
Twitter account called cat turd because
when you're one of Washington's leading
Authorities on foreign policy you spend
a lot of time on Twitter reading
accounts with names like cat turd so the
other day cat turd made the mistake of
posting a meme that seemed to mock the
colors of the Ukrainian flag colors that
are sacred to Adam kiner and every other
empathetic soomer from mid-40s you could
imagine how offensive that was it was
like telling an off-color joke about
Megan Markle it could not
stand and so alone and battling
debilitating hot flashes in his kitchen
fighting the urge to open yet another
bag of gyps aoy Adam kininger fought
back literal evil he wrote in a late
night response to cat turd if I met you
in person it would not end well for you
sicko who he hear that cat turd it will
not end well for you that's not a pillow
fight Adam kininger is talking about
that's a full-on slap fight with hair
pulling this is real you'd better
apologize our heart goes out to cat turd
tonight Who's probably cowering in a
litter box somewhere waiting for Adam
kininger to show up with sharpened
nails so cat turd enraged Adam kininger
and has also been noticed on late night
comedy shows watch and things seem to
hit a new low last night as he retweeted
three times an account called cat
[Laughter]
turd now to be fair the cat is wearing
glasses so it must be
smart the actual Twitter handle for the
account is cat turd 2 and I for one
cannot wait to see what's in store from
cat turd
3 cat tur sounds like someone Joe Briden
would have bought up in a Feats during
the primaries H when I was growing up in
Scranton that was a real mean son of a
gun we used to call him cat
tur he could do and Bebop like
nobody's business what was I talking
about oh yeah climate
change well there's a reason nobody
watches late night comedy shows anymore
but still cat turd seems to offend
people why is that who is this man who's
cat turd
one well we found him he's a man he's
from the south that's all we know he
wants to keep his name private cuz he
doesn't want his life any more disrupted
than it already has been but he is
joining us anyway in physical form cat
it's great to see you how you doing so
you made it Tucker so many qu so many
questions so um I actually don't know
your real name just for the record okay
um what year did you graduate from Yale
um yeah I graduated Yale I think
1984 no seriously I'm guessing you
didn't go to Yale and I mean that I went
to Harvard after you you went to Harvard
well I remember you so well there um
where you like what what was your
preparation for being catur like tell us
your life trajectory who are you without
revealing your name well I'm from
Northwest Florida I mean Georgia um same
thing yeah well I live in northwest
Florida now but so I I graduated high
school kind of early at 17 joined the
army um I was telling you earlier I
spent my 18th birthday in a foxhole in
Fort Dicks New Jersey in basic training
back when it really was basic
training uh and then um I I got injured
when I was over in bad kigan Germany and
we were on alert and I hurt my back real
bad and had surgery oh and that was
pretty much the end of my Army Career I
was a medac um back to Fort Gordon
Georgia had back surgery I actually
tried to stay in but
um they wouldn't let me yeah I mean it's
been something I've had to deal with my
whole life so they wrecked your body and
then kicked you out yeah pry good okay
you know I was honorable medical
discharge but yeah and so um after that
um I hitch hike to Panama City and I've
pretty much been in in the Panhandle
ever since you know I'm 59 years old um
I
spent you know just like most people I
was um I'm I'm different than most of
the influencers that um do all the right
things have the kids we the suit and
ties I pretty much was um screwed up
until I was about 40 45 years old I had
a couple f
marriages uh followed by uh I I was just
I was a professional musician for a year
I was a hippie I had long hair and a
beard and and smoked weed and had a a VW
van and wor dyed shirts I did I did I
was a real hippie um I uh went from job
to job a lot here to there yeah partied
a lot I had I had my my my stint with
drugs and alcohol and you know I don't
know why everybody's scared to admit it
you know everybody paints this not big
famous picture you know this big picture
of how um you know in the world that we
live in today it's just like I just I've
always been honest with my followers and
on my podcast um I don't trust people
who don't know how weak they are yeah I
know yeah and so I um kind of aimlessly
went through my life and uh um then I
finally ended up you know working a good
fiber optics job for years
um at 54 years old which was 5 years ago
I'd never been on social media I didn't
know anything about social media I even
know how it worked I had no friends on
social media and I just decided to U I
got arthritis in my fingers I couldn't
play guitar anymore and I was just like
you know what I'm going to do I'm just G
to get on Twitter and I just be you know
saw the cat just said cat turet I never
thought I'd have a 100 followers you
know who who who' think that it's just
like it's like Homer Simpson now cat tur
it's Way Beyond me you know they're
doing uh wait if I can just ask you to
pause what was the moment when when you
decided to to make that your numb to
Gar I just was like uh uh surfing
through the web and I saw that cat
picture and it just cat tur it was that
simple I mean who you know I didn't
think anybody was ever going to follow
me I remember asking people for weeks
how do I post a picture on here and so I
don't even know how it took off it just
got legs somehow and it just took off so
but why did you do it why did I do what
why' you go online and start giving your
opinions I don't know well I've always
been um as a professional musician um in
the in the
90s um you you know you have to be good
at
construction instruction yeah because
you got to make money yeah you're not
gonna make I'm a little slow I missed
that so you better learn to build stuff
so you know me and my band guys we were
we were Builders you know we build decks
roofs build a build a house whatever and
so in the 90s uh you you're bored and
you know we played music at night we
didn't want to listen to music so I
started listen to Rush limbo really so
every day we'd listen to Rush limbo
where we're building houses whatever you
and every construction crew in America
yeah and it just it just like this is I
didn't even know I was a hippie I
thought I was a liberal I didn't know
what I was still and I was like this
guy's saying everything I
believe and um it was um it was you know
I listened to him till the day he died
really yeah I total Rush baby and it was
just like this guy's talking exactly
what I think and I never even knew what
I was until you know I I I started
listening to him but that's how I got in
and I was just political junkie from the
first time I heard him and it's just
been like that ever since so I got on
you know Twitter now X and just started
posting
and man what a five years it's
unbelievable it is I mean but but why
did you do that I mean a lot of people
have political opinions but they don't
imagine that other people want to read
them or they don't feel compelled to
share them with the world on a social
media app I don't know why it caught
fire um but why did you want to do it
because you were frustrated yeah I guess
so I just you know I think as artistic
um although I I didn't play on stage a
lot in the last uh years I would always
go to my room and I wrote a lot of music
I actually wrote my best stuff then and
it was just I I need that artistic
outlet and when I lost that I was really
kind of depressed because I'd lost my
fingers it like overnight they started
swelling up I got arthritis from playing
guitar and and and using power tools my
whole life and um I was just like I just
need to do something and so I just got
on social media just it's just the spur
of the moment it was my birthday it was
like two days after my birthday I said
I'm gonna join Twitter and I was asking
people I was calling people how do you
join Twitter how do you do a picture how
is there a membership committee what's
the
[Laughter]
rules so when at what point did it I
can't remember the first time I saw it
but um at what point did you realize it
was
working I don't know I remember after
two or three months I was I was working
on a job in Miami and I told one of my
friends that was that was rooming with
me at the time we were working there I
said man this thing's really taken off
and he thought I was crazy as what and I
said this cat turd thing and he's just
he he thought I was nuts CU you know
everybody did I was trying to tell
everybody this thing's really taking off
and everybody just like whatever you
know here's the show
start get in rocks over there in that
hole and it just it just caught fire I I
don't know how I don't know how it did
and it just keeps
going wow I mean so you're you're in
Miami rooming with another guy that
you're working with yeah on some kind of
job yeah yeah fiber optics job I did
fiber optic construction for years after
I got finished you know with my music
career and like at the point that Adam
kining or starts replying to you and
threatening your life oh yeah by the way
that would be quite a slap fight do you
feel confident you wi I don't know you
know it's he's scary you know I want to
see eye to eye with him so I'm going to
go get a a Home Depot five gallon bucket
and so he can stand on
it but when Adam kinzinger himself who's
got a you know he's got Ukraine to
defend oh yeah he's super busy um
transitioning or whatever he's doing um
when he takes time to attack you and
threaten to beat you up or scratch you
yeah like and that wasn't my meme I just
said I think I said I shouldn't be
laughing at this but it's funny yeah and
then um and then it made it worse you
know once he does that that he he don't
understand how the internet works now
they got his face on it yeah you know I
now now all the time you see that Meme
it's his face on it now well how do you
understand how the internet works I
don't know I just somehow
do interesting yeah so what has it done
to your life well it it it's totally
changed my life um you know financially
I started s selling merch and then uh I
got a podcast you know we got Jules and
I I have a co-host Jules Jones our
podcast is called in the litter boox you
know we got to deal with Rumble which we
love we love Rumble and um and then you
know fast forward of these ad shares
which are crazy you know with Elon Musk
I mean it's big money
and
um I bought a new truck a couple of
weeks ago I never had a new vehicle in
my life you know and to be able to do
something like that for me I mean I
think a lot of people I know what it's
like to live paycheck to paycheck for
both most of my life I know what it's
like to look like a teabag you know at
the end of the work day and be so sore I
know what it's like to choose from your
rent and food I know what it's like to
um ride around on four different tires
you one's got three plugs one's got five
plugs one's got 13 plugs in it you know
we call them blone skins no
tread so I think I think a lot of people
just um um I'm kind of like the Rudy of
Twitter I probably don't deserve to be
there but I I worked hard enough to
maybe get that one play at the end of at
the end of the game it's the most
American story ever it really is nuts it
really is nuts there there's I don't
think there's a lot of people like my
situation because like I said most the
influencers are I mean they just they've
they've and and they did the right thing
not me I did the wrong thing they did
the right thing they've got great wives
and kids and and uh you know they've
made a lot of money they got you know
parents that are successful and they
went to college for sure and and I'm
just a working class stiff that well
that's the ruling class of the country
yeah and I'm from it so I know I know
yeah um so it's pretty amazing to see
this happen to you it is and and so how
much of your day is spent on it pretty
much seven days a week I'm I'm an
insomniac I always have been so I get up
at four or five and I
basically do it seven days a week you
know 15 hours a day what so but you're
you've spent your life moving physically
moving outside obviously it's been hard
on your body as you said oh it has but
it's also there's something good about
moving and not I mean what's it like the
change at 55 to go from you know being
on the road installing fiber cable to
sitting behind the screen all day oh
it's
fantastic screw
moving no but well sorry that's so
awesome I've I've got you know I I I've
got 13 rescue pets and I still you know
I I still take care of my um I got a
little I got a horse wrench but there's
no horses it's got a barn and the whole
deal and uh it's fenced in where my dogs
can run R free and I chase them around
all day 13 rescues yeah 13 now what's
that like it's um well I post all the
pictures online and it's all these
beautiful pictures but they don't see
all the fights and the growling and you
know there he's swallowing a bone and he
swallowed a rope and they're all chasing
a squirrel and they're fighting and you
know they don't see all that but it's it
it I don't know what happened um but
they just started coming to me I've
never been to a rescue shelter
they I found all of my pets uh starving
and beaten and Abandoned and uh and just
on the side of the road all the dogs
except I got two puppies one of the dogs
I got uh uh came in and she was young I
didn't think anything about it and she
got pregnant and before I knew it it was
just like I had 10 puppies two on top of
this and it's funny cuz I gave them away
and they got Twitter accounts they got
huge Twitter accounts people follow the
puppies they're called puppy
turs uh why do you adopt so many animals
I just I mean when you see a a dog
starving what are you going to do and
then I try to tell myself I'm G to
rehome some of these um and then you
spend so much time with them trying to
just like get them fed yeah they're so
the ones I I find they're so almost dead
starving to death so and then I fall in
love with them and I can't let them go
and that's that that simple
wow that's I mean that's pretty that's
pretty amazing but I got to
stop well now you can afford the dog
food yeah so um I can and um I you know
it's just kind of turning thing where
people say hey Cat turd I got a rescue
we found on the side of the road so I'll
post it or I'll repost it and it's just
turned into something I do I've had
kennels built and you you got to keep
them separated some of them you know
they're from some of them I find they're
10 years old some I find they puppies
and some of them just don't like each
other yeah dogs are like that it's hard
to get pack
cohesion um so you're not telling us
your real name or taking your glasses
off which I which I respect but tell us
why tell us why that would be a concern
in well supposedly free country yeah so
um number one I'm I like being in the
background I get invited to all the Red
Carpet Events and stuff but I never go
it's just not my thing uh but I mean for
just say my opinion and that's all I do
I just give my opinion I just like look
at each issue and they call me a
right-wing fanatic on Wikipedia and you
know all these hit pieces they do but
you know I hate the Republican and
Democrat Party equally me too I mean we
have a country now 99% of Washington DC
is just corrupt and um we're the resist
you're not the resist you know the
people they online uh we are the resist
and and we're just trying to fix the
country so for doing my common you know
sense opinions I get death threats I've
been swatted three times they try to
have me murder tell us well tell us what
that's like well it always usually
happens during my podcast but so um the
last time they they call and pretend to
be me and they said that um uh that I
caught my wife in bed with somebody and
I'm not married so and I shot them both
and then when the police get there I'm
going to kill them so they'll try to
come up and get you they try to get you
murdered that's what it is it's
attempted murder if you ask me during
your podcast during the P it's always
during the podcast it's happened to me
three times it's happened to a lot of us
you know it's happened to Margie Taylor
green Tim
P um but once you know everybody's once
you get to a certain level they're
they're going to come after you I have
they've lately they've been cutting
heads off rabbits and throwing them off
the body over my
gate serious that's happened three times
now too so we live in a country where
the citizenry is surveilled much more
thoroughly than North Korea surveils its
own citizens like everything you do is
monitored right through your phone
facial recognition satellites everything
is monitored but they can't find the
people who are doing this yeah and and
are they even interested in finding it
if it happens to us you know I mean who
do we call who do you call who do you
call because there is nobody now the
local police where I live are awesome
and I support the Poli I always have I
just don't support the feds at all I
mean look what they've turned into
Tucker it's it's it's it's awful so you
call the local cops when this happens
and what do they say well the first time
I did it they were like you're cat turd
aren't you and so yeah so I I I left
them after the first time I gave him a
bunch of gear you know here get some cat
tur stuff but they they actually come
and and they Patrol my property a lot
mainly because it's one horse town there
nothing else to do yeah
but U they're great and then they watch
it like a hawk you know they're very
protective of it but it's like if
somebody on the left annoys me which
they do a lot I'll mute them right if if
if if I annoy people which I understand
I do they try to have me killed I mean
that's a big gap isn't it right it's a
big gap muting attempted murder
big so you spend your life watching
what's happening
oh yeah what conclusions have you drawn
where do you think we're going this year
well we're in trouble I mean it's just
God I I always try to be positive but
sometimes I can't see a way out of it
anymore can you I mean I just don't see
a way out of it and I'm a trump
supporter I'm a trump guy yeah um if you
you know I go back to the it cracks me
the funniest thing to me on X is all the
people that do whatever the government
says that put resist in their bio that's
the funniest thing you know black lives
matter obedient little yeah
whatever and and um they they can tell
them anything and they'll do it what if
you can convince your voters that men
can have babies yeah think about that
you've got them you can tell them to you
can tell them tell them to wear a dirty
dopper on their head and they're going
to do it they will they and and racist
if you don't have a dirty dopper on your
head but once once they can convince you
of that I mean you got to these people
are laughing when they're at the bar the
Democrats saying that we've convinced
them that men can have babies and they
believe it and they're calling everybody
names that doesn't believe it so do you
see that changing at all I believe the
woke is the woke part of it is coming to
a head I really do I think it's people
are tired of it I am we don't care what
names you call us and and I'm a person
who believes I don't you know I was a
hippie I was a real hippie not one of
these fake hippies don't I was a actual
hippie I mean I lived up I was homeless
at one time I lived up in a tent but in
a lake for months how was it um it was
good I a lot of crappy and I ate
them every night um you a crappy every
night oh well gota got to eat somehow
yeah uh so it it's it's a it's a rough
spot to be in but um where what were we
talking about you're saying that people
are getting sick of the anti-white stuff
the trans stuff all that
but do kids have a chance I mean think
think about this um I I'm 59 I think
you're in your 50s and we went to school
there was you know we actually learn
mathematics social studies history but
they think about a kid these days he
goes to school they start when they're
three or four in kindergarten and they
don't have a chance they they look what
they do to them now they're like
critical race Theory you get over there
all you are racist and you're okay
you're a racist and then they put a mask
on you and and they they they teach you
that the air you breathe is poison and
then they tell you you're all going to
die and burn in Hellfire from global
warming in 12 years think about these
little kids how scared they are they
scare the hell out of them yeah they do
and then it's uh uh trans this and and
and and and they're showing BJs to seven
years old in books yeah and and and and
then they go through the whole school
and it's like that and then they step
into college and once College it's ter
now and they're brainwashed through and
I honestly think the longer you stay in
college the Dumber you get now I any
question about it does that make sense
makes a lot of sense and and so you have
these teachers so they go they go
through that and then they go and they
stay in college as long as they can till
they're 30 years old and then they go
right from there to a teaching job so
they stay on campus until they're 50 so
they don't have any life experience
they've never they don't know what it's
like to to work for a living or or are
run a business and they're the ones
teaching you know and it's just it's
it's horrible so they they don't have a
chance so all of this or some of it is
coming going to come to a head this
calendar year because of the
presidential election oh yeah where do
you see that
going
well man Trump's going to win the
primary I hope everybody knows that we
got him all around and um fight each
other and the dantz people we're all I'm
in there we're all fighting each other
but Trump's going to win the primary and
he should win it um
but Man U what they're doing to him and
they're not they're not doing it to
Trump to do it to Trump they hate him
but I always say on the podcast that
Washington's okay as long as they have
George Bush versus Obama every year
that's what they want they want George
Bush versus Obama every four years they
split up the four trillion dollars with
their friends some of them get it
sometimes some of them get but that
that's what they want they want Bush
versus Obama they're okay with that yeah
they love Nikki Haley of course they you
know um can I ask you to pause and since
you're online all day do you think
there's organic support for Nikki Hal
there's none okay because she's I'm not
even sure she's an actual human being
yeah she's the most
dangerous Republican primary candidate
we've had probably one of them in my
lifetime why did you say that she just I
mean some of the things she said like
she's a neocon number one yeah I mean my
God how how many times are you going to
be food America I mean from the Vietnam
War if Vietnam if North Vietnam beats
South Vietnam it's the it's over for our
country yeah so let's send 60,000 people
to die Korea was the same way all the
Middle Eastern Wars and uh she she's
right in there Ukraine Ukraine but
unlike you she served our country in un
oh wait oh yeah
y yep but but she's dangerous and and
remember when she said A week ago if
you're anonymous on Twitter or whatever
I want your name that's what she said
you got to register with the government
to give your opinion I want your name
not the government wants it I do she's
dangerous I just I get a feel for people
I've always had a KN knack to kind of
feel people out and and I just it's just
she's like Mike Pence yeah she's nothing
they say is authentic everything sounds
like it's program cliches yes um I've
had a lot of bosses in my life and some
nasty ones you know that's the way
bosses are yeah and every person I've
ever talked to in my life and every boss
I ever had they talk exactly like Trump
all of them yeah I don't have anybody in
my life that sets up there like Mike
Pence and you know a burden of hands
wereth two in the bush you know just
every cliche you can imagine you get a
creepy vibe off Pence total I say on the
podcast sometimes I I don't know what
skeleton he I'd hate to see what goes on
there when the lights go
out so um I'm not just nobody's that
perfect you know quit acting perfect I
remember that time he was like I can't
even have lunch with another woman
because I'm married even if we're
friends remember when he said that yeah
that's I was like yeah I had I had a lot
of thoughts about that which I'm not
going to sh I mean by the way I think
you should if you're married you should
really actively try not to commit
adultery I think that's I totally agree
with that 100% but him specifically
saying that I reached exactly the
opposite conclusion I'm just going to
say that yeah I don't I don't I don't
trust them when when they're when when
they're that perfect and they it's all
it's just like it's planned everything
they say is planned and I just that
that's why I like Trump you know does
Trump makes some bad everybody I don't
believe everything you say you don't
believe everything I say I don't believe
every Trump doesn't believe everything I
say but I mean what they're doing now
he's already an iconic figure and
they're going to turn him into a martyr
and they're making him more powerful and
more powerful and more powerful and um I
could see him if the election was fair I
could see him just totally steamrolling
if it was fair I know it would be you
think it will be uh well who do we
have uh to fight who do we have to fight
Rona McDaniels give me a break I mean we
got Scott presler out there beating the
streets he's beating a a street like a
you know like a bicycle clown out there
he is going around everywhere he's
registering voters he's on the ground
and and the Republican Party won't give
him the time of day he knows every rule
to every County in his
country and that's if you could have a
thousand of him out there and they train
another thousand you could sweep this
thing why do you think they're not doing
that well I mean why would you have
someone as mediocre and incapable as
Ronald McDaniel who has no track record
of success in any area why would she run
the Republican party that's pretty weird
right I have no idea I remember when you
know 90% of the people were complaining
about her you know getting the job again
I remember one of the donors y y this
has nothing to do y'all the donors pick
this I remember reading a story like
that and that sounds true it's true they
don't care They Don't Care About Us
there I mean I always say especially
when it comes to Trump the the democ the
Democrats will cheat and the Republicans
let him because they hate Trump yeah
they hate him and I mean it's a Simple
Choice to me I mean if you re he's the
only resist president in my lifetime why
do you think they hate him so
much because he's not a part of their
Club this is not about Trump to me it's
just like this is an
outsider and we're going to destroy his
life and we're going to show everybody
out there that if you pick an outsider
somebody that we hadn't pick going back
to a bush versus you know Obama
situation if if it's not the people we
pick that are we're okay with we're
going to destroy their lives we're going
to they can't even get a lawyer they
arrest your lawyer for defending you
yeah and we're going to make up stuff
we're going to sell your property that's
worth a billion dollars is worth
$13.74 we're going to do whatever we can
and and this is to show not just Trump
but to anybody in the next 50 years we
will siek the FBI the CIA we will
destroy you if you're not our chosen
people and that's what I think's going
on if Trump is
prevented from appearing on the ballot
in November if he's
arrested you know something even worse
happens which is entirely possible
that's the next step of course it's the
next step I don't want to say it out
loud everyone knows I hate saying it
true of course I'm not going to but
everyone knows what I'm talking about um
but if he is prevented if democracy is
prevented from
proceeding what do you think the
response from his voters is going to be
since you follow this carefully well why
do you think they do the January 6
things they want you scared that if you
do anything you could be you 80 foot
away you know outside the tape of the
capital you could be a half a mile away
and they're going to come after you
because there haven't been any I mean
this used to be a country where people
felt free to assemble as is guaranteed
them in the Constitution to make their
views known you have demonstrations and
rallies you haven't seen January 6 was
the last one on the right that I'm aware
of they're that's what they're trying to
do scary you
so but do you think that there will be
demonstrations if something oh yeah it's
it's
yeah but like I say they're just making
him more powerful making Trump more
powerful yeah I mean I hate to tell you
Libs this but because of you in a
hundred years they're not going to be
talking about me or even you they're
goingon to be talking about Trump in a
100 years I agree with that he's going
to be one of the biggest figures in in
in the history of our country not
because what he did but because of how
they're treating him and they're making
him more powerful and if he gets
arrested and gets put in a jail can you
imagine and and it could happen people
say it couldn't happen oh it could
happen it could happen very easily yeah
who should he pick as his running
man oh man I go back and forth from this
um I would like to say this that I don't
think the VP pick really matters that
much I mean we got Harris as a VP that
proes it yeah but I'll tell you it takes
a long time for me to trust you but I'm
starting to like Vivic and I'm not sure
if he's fake and I'm not sure if it's
just a show but man he's pissing them
off bad as me and
you yeah they hate him they do and he's
saying I mean boy he the rep them them
debates my God he got Rona McDaniel he
got all of them mad but he and Ain't It
Funny he's running the campaign exactly
what Des santz should have been running
he's running the campaign that Des santz
but Des santz is running a Nikki Haley
campaign does it seem that way it does
to me why I think you said something
about his online team is just so cringe
and I and I I shouldn't have said that I
shouldn't have gotten involved in that
I've been trying to stay out of it I
just um and I know they are and they but
yeah I don't understand it I mean um
people like you know cons people build
trust with you it's consistency over
time yeah and when you're a Trump
supporter all well some of them hated
Trump then you loved Trump and you loved
him and now you love des santz and then
if he's gone you going to love Nikki
Haley people don't trust that and I
don't have anything against any of them
I mute a lot of them um I don't carry
grudges with these people and I welcome
anybody in when it's over of course you
know I don't have any grud do you think
that but it does see I mean I don't
follow it very closely I'll admit I
don't want to follow with closely but it
does seem like there's enormous
bitterness between the disantis people
in the Trump oh there is it's crazy and
I I try not to get into the personal
attacks um I'm kind of like Trump even
on x i I'll if if you want to you know
I'm a ship poster if you want if you
want to come at the ship poster with two
million followers come on and an army of
you know foaming out the mouth just
waiting for me to say something you know
to get on somebody but I very seldom I
don't just attack first but you know if
you keep attacking me yeah and but it
doesn't bother me I don't I don't take
any of this stuff personally I mean I
don't either you know I they've call me
every name in the book you know um I'll
be called you know that they'll you know
you're old you're fat you're ugly I mean
that's how they fight you know which all
three are kind of
true I'll have to beat them the next
round but uh um it people get so mad at
this and and you you have to like if you
have to step back from it and I I think
it's funny I've lived in the real world
where you know I've been in bar fights
you know been real you know stuff um so
you know somebody calling me ugly and
old and a
boomer uh I don't care yeah do you I
don't care I don't even know what people
say I'm not I I care what the people I
love thinking that's me too and that's
it um and like you I have a lot of dogs
which really helps yeah um do you think
the breach between those two camps Trump
to santis can be fixed yeah I I I think
U you some of it some people can't but
most people can um but this is my first
primary it's been I don't know if it's
ever been this vicious
but so I supported Des santz I'm a
Florida guy and I was glad he was our
governor and I oh me too I don't get
paid by any campaign and I pushed hard
and I was so glad when he won by 20
points and I was so happy and I think
he's a good Governor yeah and um so and
I try to tell people you got I I I don't
want him so beaten down and hammered
that we end up getting a blue governor
next you know a Gavin Newsome to destroy
our state I me you're here now um but
someone from his team not crazy high but
they asked me my honest opinion about it
when he when he said he was going to run
and I was like don't do it whatever you
do don't run think about and this is
what I told him I said okay he's 44
young young yeah and he just won
reelection by the biggest
Landslide I was like govern your state
yeah and it perfect how perfect is the
timing when you're when the end of your
eight years is up it's right would be
right getting in the meat of the 2028
that's right I I this is what I tell him
support Trump because he helped you and
you don't want you don't want the Trump
supporters you they can destroy you I
mean you don't want them you know you
don't want to turn on them I swear I
said look just please this is my advice
just have him govern Governor support
Trump all he can and in 28 you got Biden
with only four years left or Trump with
only four years left and now you're more
popular and now you have all the Trump
people you have all the dantz people and
you can moonwalk into the White House in
2028 moonwalk that's my exact words I
use what was the response you got um
yeah okay thanks a lot
uh a lot of people don't take me too
seriously but it it and I hate it I hate
it's going like this but a lot of people
do take you seriously which is
interesting it is and and I can see why
I think you're insightful no thank you
how many politicians have you met
personally um well when they when they
when uh personally you know I kind of
keep to myself but uh DM wise and
messaged me they all love me when it
comes to election time hey will you
retweet this and retweet this and um I
can't name five people in either party I
trust I just don't trust anybody anymore
and they don't they don't deserve our
trust the Republican party I mean come
on they don't know how to fight no I
know that they're over there talking
about their principles and they're
arresting their political opponent so
you better get in the game and we get
the power of the gavel and what do they
do with it seriously nothing I mean this
is how you fight when you get the gavl
you do your own January 6 committee but
do you think it's cuz they don't
understand how to fight or they're
throwing the match I I don't know if
they just don't care yeah or they don't
know how or they're just cowards but the
truth is see this is how you fight you
get a January 6 committee and you don't
allow any Democrats on it and you put
everybody on it they hate just like they
did US you put Margie Taylor green
bobbert M Gates that's the J six
committee you don't allow them to have
any Witnesses and you start subo let's
see what Nancy Pelosi was talking to to
the capital police you start subp
everybody and you have it on C-Span
every day for years and they if you
don't start fighting like that it's over
for this country well but and also you
have an obligation do that because it's
in pursuit of the truth I know what do
you make of the fact that the new
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson has
not released the videotape which he
controls well I I told everybody you
know that he was he was going to be
awful I warned everybody they had that
little kumay ya moment he did what what
did he do exactly what Kevin McCarthy
did he said he's going to release it so
they get the big headlines gets
everybody excited they release 1% of 1%
and then they just don't do it anymore
and look what when when when you release
that the Q Shaman he got out of prison
because of that one little five minutes
think of what if they were just release
it just release it but they can't do it
it's just push the button just push the
button and release it I know when he was
talking about Ukraine funding he was
like well we have to at some point do
the Ukraine fund funny because we don't
want Russia steamrolling over Europe
that was his exact words or I'm
paraphrasing close you think I mean you
obviously you'd have to be really stupid
to believe that I'm assuming he's not
stupid I mean why would he say something
like that it's the it's the same thing
they always do to get us gend up about a
war also by the way if Russia invaded
Western Europe could it be in worse
shape than it is now I mean it was the
US government that blew up the German
economy it wasn't the Russians it was
the Biden Administration that blew up
nordstream oh yeah and ended their main
source of cheap energy so like could the
Russians be worse than that maybe I
guess but like I don't get it well you
know they've used Ukraine as kind of
their 51st state Acy with no rules the
biolabs which they lied about then told
the truth uh everybody in washing uh
their kids over there making $4 million
a year you know at some kind of company
uh but so I don't I don't let them Jin
me up and and and they try to Jin you up
more and get you mad I can't get
emotional when we have a 100,000 people
dying of fentol poison in our own
country I'm not going to get emotional I
hate War I'm anti-war I'm the one that
wants a peace deal you're the one that
wants to keep and here's the problem
with Ukraine I think we're going to end
up in the same spot a year or so from
now I think there's going to be a peace
agreement at some point and there's
going to be a million dead people and
Russia's going to take a little bit of
the country and we're going to be in the
same place we would have been and no one
will ever apologize for all those dead
and and they're just going to cause poop
puppets cuz we want peace and that's it
couldn't agree more so la first of all
thank you for doing this I appreciate it
no problem um last question do you so
you've you went from installing fiber
line to becoming legitimately
famous only because of your voice you
were allowed to talk in public was
purely Democratic like people liked what
you said they supported you all of that
is contingent on having a voice do you
think a year from now you will have the
same voice you will be allowed to say
the things that you are saying now well
I hope so but um you see what they're
doing to come after me I I you know I
hate to say this but I tell my family
all the time hey the FBI could frame me
who know I mean I don't trust them no
you I hate saying that I want an FBI
that I don't feel that way about but hey
um that you know they can do anything
they if they want to get me they're
going to get me but I'm not going to
shut up so that's it I'm not shutting up
so do you feel that you will be able to
reach the same audience a year from now
I I think so I mean it's it's it's gone
up um I'm um you know I'm doing my own
events now we're doing um we did turd
stock I do want to mention that which
was it was kind of a John rich and I was
kind of a joke and I said no I'm serious
instead of you know Woodstock let's do
turd
stock and where'd you do it yeah that's
a redneck Riviera um up at his place in
November that's was my big coming out
where everybody got to see me and had
some great musicians we're actually um
one of the musicians Angie
Aero who is a has got a you'd love this
story Tucker it's it's the Great
American comeback story he he was he
wrote a cry for Faith Hill and she won a
Grammy uh and uh he he was this like
unbelievable musician with his
voice and um he was on his way up signed
with a you know a record label and then
he had a broke and completely lost his
voice and couldn't talk and so he spent
um I think 2016 201 2017 learn how to
talk again and so now he's on his way
back up and uh we he was he was there
and um we're um we're doing an event for
him on the 24th so I'm going to just
keep kind of staying in my
lane and um um just do what I do you
know probably won't going to the Red
Carpet Events to meet everybody get
pictures uh but uh I'm so we're going to
miss you at Davos next week I'm not
going to be there you're not going to be
there yeah I don't I don't know I just
don't I don't seem like I fit in there
to me I'm more of the hanging out with
the people kind of
person but it was nice to meet you and
um and I really appreciate you inviting
me we're grateful to have you
catur thank
you free speech is bigger than any one
person or any one organization societies
are defined by what they will not permit
what we're watching is the total
inversion of
virtue