hi so today I'd like to talk a little
bit more about ultrasonic cleaners in
which one that you should buy so often I
recommend the crest CP 500 HT it has a
heater it has a timer so that you can
control how long it stays on and it's
also fairly cheap among a high-end
ultrasonic cleaners now my friend had
told me you know you should really junk
this so that we can get one that's
better that cleans better that is you
know that can fit more boards in it so
we got a Branson 5800 CPX and it was
5800 something with the heater DB gasser
and the timer and it was all digital and
it cost a little bit more money this one
was two and a half gallons now my staff
was telling me I don't really like this
one as much as the old crest that you
had I like the old crest why can't we
have the old crest back and honestly
shamefully from I just thought that they
were just being employees and bitching
for no reason because if you're an
employer you'll notice that sometimes
people simply like to complain for no
valid reason or it may be a kind of
valid reason but it's like come on is
that seriously that bad and that's what
I thought was going on and then I was
using it for a while and I really didn't
notice you know I was tooth brushing
boards every now and then I'd be moving
off little bits that weren't clean I
just thought that was something that was
always happening now what happened is
somebody actually asked me if I were you
know if I had an ultrasonic for sale or
if there is one that I would recommend
they buy and I said well I sell this
thing it sells for about a thousand or
eleven hundred dollars from all spec
I'll sell it to you for 750 my staff was
I was getting them this thing because
honestly half at the time I'm not even
the one using the ultrasonic cleaner so
why should my opinion matter I'll let
them get what they want and over the
last few days since I got back from the
practical board repair school I've been
using this and I've been noticing that
this I was using this toothbrush all the
time like before and after just to get
off some of the junk because I just
thought the cleaner wasn't getting it of
getting it wasn't gonna get that this
thing gets everything off and I'm just
wondering to myself what neat God's name
was I thinking with that Branson this
entire time and what happened is with a
person that I sold it to the post office
actually smashed it to pieces completely
so I wound up in filing an insurance
claim on it and refunding that person
the money which as bad as it was for the
person who bought the cleaner I feel
like it actually worked out best in the
end because had I had I realized what a
complete pile of crap that cleaner was a
I would have never sold it to you to
begin with and B now that that piece of
crap cleaner is gone you're going to be
forced to buy a good cleaner and not
that Branson so it really got engraved
into my head that that thing wasn't
really that great so I talked here about
it you should buy a crest or a Branson
because they're good compared to the
crappy jewelry cleaners but this really
engraved in my head even more the
importance of buying a good ultrasonic
cleaner because Branson is a well-known
name in the ultrasonic cleaning industry
they're a very well-known name they're a
name that's known for quality they're
known for putting out good products the
liquid that I buy is made by Branson and
their actual cleaner it works like crap
there's really no other way I can
describe I was so used to how it worked
that I actually forgot how a good
cleaner works until I started using my
crest here again and noticed wow so I
don't have to wipe that off before I put
it in there so I don't have to expect
that it's not gonna clean that so I
don't have to toothbrush it while it's
in there and hard to get that chunk off
it just gets the stuff off now another
thing that some people are gonna say I'm
being unfair with this is the actual
speed at which it heats so this holds
one gallon less water it's about 40% or
so less water than the two and a half
gallon version this is only the one and
a half gallon version but this heats up
I'm not kidding this thing will heat up
to 80 or 83 Celsius in about an hour
sometimes less than an hour the Branson
you could have the thing literally
sitting there for three or four hours
and that thing would not even make its
way to 60 Celsius I actually wound up
buying this thing on eBay it is a water
heater that you can plug into a 220 volt
outlet and the Branson with this heats
up slower than this does so my employee
he would come in at 8:00 in the morning
he turn on the Branson he turn on heater
I told them don't use this under 60
Celsius the liquid Branson's own liquid
says use it around sixth around six
sixty to seventy C on the side of the
Branson EC cleaner bottle so I'd say use
it at sixty and like it would almost be
time for him to go home and the thing
would be reading 58 or 59 Celsius so he
couldn't even clean the board and try it
the same day because in the time that it
took to heat the water his shift would
almost be over and that is just again
that's silly even though it is a gallon
more water the amount of time extra that
it took to heat that versus heating the
crest is just insane and I and like the
worst is when I would actually put this
thing in there it would get to 60
Celsius or 61 Celsius right I would take
it out and within five minutes you'd see
the temperature with the with the
Branson heater on the temperature would
drop to 57 or 56 and that that's that's
just that's just unacceptable so not
only does this thing heat up much faster
it also actually does a much better job
of cleaning the motherboard so I'm kind
of sad that I was using that Branson for
a few months again I knew that my crust
was a good cleaner I knew that it was a
good cleaner but my friend just insisted
that I try something new and he is very
arrogant in his opinions and also I I
kind of wanted to try something new
since the crest that I had it had been
dropped off of a truck many times the
the timer in it didn't work the heater
and it took forever so what I wound up
doing is I've got this crest C P 500 D
to replace it that's the digital version
so not only does it include ultrasonic
and heating it also includes degassing
and since it's digital I don't have to
worry about that the timer not breaking
or not working because that is digital
so I want it paying about 950 bucks for
this thing I bought it online from a
good company on ebay by the way if you
plan on buying a crest on ebay don't buy
from this guy called the balkis which
enterprises he is a total dick and they
can they go above and beyond to just
screw with you and waste your time on
orders so we accidentally we mean we
made an honest mistake and we made an
offer on something and I made an offer
on two or three at a time I forgot to
cancel one of them and we didn't notice
that it was still in the cart a few days
later my employee checks out buying some
screwdrivers or something on eBay and he
accidentally checks out and buys this
thing literally a minute later he
messages the guy saying that we bought
this is there any way that you can
refund us or cancel the order we don't
need the order I'm sorry and the guy
sends us like a two or three paragraph
response explaining how this is not how
business is done you ordered this you
bought this it's getting shipped we're
shipping it like pretty much a [ __ ] you
and he calls and he's bitching and
irritated on the phone and it's just
like this happened with somebody else
and the other guy it's a company called
get met online on eBay so that's the
company I would actually suggest you buy
this from because the price is
reasonable and the P there are not
[ __ ] so get met online on eBay
that's why I recommend you buy your
crest CP 500 HT or your crest CP 500
deep so this guy for this bulk Bacchus
which enterprises jackass so just going
on and on and on we just okay that's
totally fine you can ship it regardless
of us asking to cancel it even though it
hasn't shipped yet you can ship it and
be an [ __ ] we're just we're just
gonna send it back to you and you know
we're gonna file a PayPal claim and yeah
so he so when you buy stuff on eBay try
to buy from the good people like get met
online and not people like the Bacchus
which enterprises again a few Google
Bacchus which enterprises you will find
a Yelp page that has dozens and dozens
and dozens of one-star reviews with
nothing good to say because again look
at the guy who runs the company is just
a prick but back to the point here what
I found with this cleaner this thing is
just absolutely amazing compared to the
branson and you know what the funny
thing is on average the crest units
actually cost less than the branson so
if you're looking to buy an ultrasonic
cleaner for your store to clean
motherboards and to also use it to make
these dead motherboards work again
definitely get the crest it heats faster
it cleans better and it just feels
overall better built again I shipped
that branson across the country it's
made of plastic the plastic cracked it
doesn't turn on we packaged that thing
very very well and keep in mind also
again you may you may be saying the post
office damaged that thing I dropped my
crest off of a truck I know because I
was the one who dropped it I was tired
it was the end of the day I was moving
from a basement in here that thing just
went clunk it hit the concrete and you
heard a thud and you saw a dent and that
thing still [ __ ] worked for
three-and-a-half additional years the
only thing that ever broke was the timer
because I think I bumped into it really
hard with something that was in my
pocket that was metal and broke it it
you can't break this again the Branson
thing you look at it it feels like a
cheap piece of plastic it looks like a
cheap piece of plastic you look at the
crest CP 500d which you can't see
because it's behind a bunch of boxes and
stuff on this desk over here but you can
Google image search and you'll find it I
can't be that lazy I'm doing a video on
a crest product I should at least show
you what it looks like this is the crest
CP 500 D it's sitting next to a bunch of
machines that customers donated or just
traded in that I have to get to fixing
as soon as I have the time and this is
this is really an amazing machine again
it is durable I have dropped the older
version of this off of a table I have
dropped the older version of this off of
a truck after dropping it off of the
table I use that thing every single day
for years after beating it it worked it
heats if you want this thing to heat up
to 80 Celsius you can do it very very
quickly you don't have to buy a water
boiler to get it to the temperature and
even at the lower temperatures of 50 and
60 Celsius what you're going to find is
that when you put a board that has green
junk on it in this when you take it out
it will not have that green junk on it
you are not gonna have to toothbrush off
the nasty parts of the board again
because you'll see this on forums
they'll say before you put a nasty board
in the ultrasonic just brush some of
that stuff off beforehand and that's
good advice if you have a junky cleaner
that's a great way to tell that the
person who's using the ultrasonic has a
crappy ultrasonic that's a great way to
tell that they're probably making the
same mistake that I am of listening to
an arrogant friend who's gonna tell them
what to buy instead of buying the
product that they should have bought in
the first place a proper ultrasonic
cleaner something like this is not going
to leave junk on the board and if you
need to go up to a higher temperature
because you have a board that's really
really nasty you can do that with this
and it will clean the board properly so
if you're thinking about buying a crest
or a Branson again I highly suggest
based on my own personal experience
using both of these cleaners one of them
I used for about four or five months the
other one I used over a period of about
six or seven years that you buy the
crest unit because it is slightly
cheaper and it also will I suggest you
buy the crest unit because it has better
build quality and it will also clean
boards better and it will heat up faster
and it's just a bitchest pretty damn
sexy machine so again ignore the jewelry
cleaners don't buy jewelry cleaners
don't buy a crappy ultrasonic cleaner
don't buy some crap for one or two
hundred bucks or three hundred bucks and
expect that it do the same job that this
thing do learn from my experience I've
tried to use cheap crappy cleaners they
didn't work I've even bought high-end
cleaners and they didn't work the way I
wanted I don't get paid by crest for
this content crest has no idea who I am
but this is something that I'm doing to
try to save you the time the money and
the hassle of truck of figuring out
which one of these does the best job of
saving you some of the time in the
headache and the nightmare and the
misery of learning on customer products
that your tools are not working the way
they're supposed to learn from this
video